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These studies are supposed to undergo peer review before they are ever published. The Lancet is a very old medical publication and was always considered to be a reliable source of current information for medical professionals. How does a fake study get published? The data isn't being properly reviewed by an unbiased source. This discredits Lancet as a publication in its entirety. They need to do some serious housecleaning. It's sad when politics get into the laboratory. The only redeeming grace is that someone called Lancet on it. Thoroughly disgusted and beginning to believe in conspiracies. If they didn't exist there wouldn't be a word for them would there?

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hydroxychloroquine and another drug might be an important help. It has been said THOUSANDS of Doctors say it helps. Please give me a list of just 10 local Doctors that support the use of hydroxychloroquine. I am interested in the research. If no local Doctors, just 10 from anywhere.

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14 minutes ago, GoodDeal said:

Please give me a list of just 10 local Doctors that support the use of hydroxychloroquine

If no local Doctors, just 10 from anywhere.

That might be hard one to accomplish locally. You probably won't know that until you test positive and then ask your doctor what they suggest for a treatment. 

There are probably 10 or more doctors on this thread that swear by hydroxychloroquine. You'll have to do a little work to gather the info.

The latest drug out there with promise is Remdesivir.

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On 7/16/2020 at 8:53 PM, Pompeii said:

That might be hard one to accomplish locally. You probably won't know that until you test positive and then ask your doctor what they suggest for a treatment. 

There are probably 10 or more doctors on this thread that swear by hydroxychloroquine. You'll have to do a little work to gather the info.

The latest drug out there with promise is Remdesivir.

Its all about which Pharma company on any given week. Just like the vaccine studies. Its about the Pharma dollars and people are dying.

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CNN Anchor Is "Doing A Disservice" To Americans For Discouraging Hydroxy Use

LOOK AT THIS LOONY Anchor FROM CNN:  :funny4:

 

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This Indian slum contained a possible COVID-19 disaster with hydroxychloroquine

On July 9, 2020, Asia's biggest and densest slum shocked the world by announcing just one new positive COVID-19 case despite being a cluster and hotspot.
 

July 22, 2020 (American Thinker) — On July 9, 2020, Asia's biggest and densest slum shocked the world by announcing just one new positive COVID-19 case despite being a cluster and hotspot.

Dharavi is no ordinary slum. It is one of the densest in the world, housing more than a million people. It provided some of the background for the Oscar-winning movie Slumdog Millionaire.

Dharavi contains pockets where as many as 650,000 people are crammed into 2.5 square kilometers. In comparison, New York City has only around 95,605 people for 2.5 square kilometers.

 

India feared the worst when a cluster outbreak of COVID-19 was reported in Dharavi. It could have become the biggest COVID-19 disaster zone in the world. But by using proactive measures, Dharavi contained the virus.

Media around the world, like the Los Angeles Times, have reported the success. Even the World Health Organization praised Dharavi.

Reports credit the huge turnaround to various factors. Most focused on Dharavi's use of widespread testing and contact tracing. One is the use of an anti-malarial drug. But they ignored the policy most responsible. Indian doctors used hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) for prophylaxis (preventive) treatment — the same drug the American media have politicized.

Dharavi's COVID-19 infection rate dropped drastically from April through June. In July, new infections were very low, almost reaching zero on July 9.

Officials have credited this turnaround to "[a] combination of hydroxychloroquine, vitamin D, and zinc tablets along with homeopathic medicines."

HCQ has been widely used across India to treat early-stage COVID-19. It is also prescribed for prophylaxis among those who have come into contact with people who have tested positive.

In India, HCQ has always been legal. The government's official COVID-19 task force, the Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR), highly recommends it for high-risk people like medical practitioners.

The ICMR guidelines recommend prophylactic use of HCQ for the following categories: 

  1. "all asymptomatic healthcare workers involved in containment and treatment of COVID19 and asymptomatic healthcare workers working in non-COVID hospitals/non-COVID areas of COVID hospitals/blocks";
  2. "symptomatic frontline workers, such as surveillance workers deployed in containment zones and paramilitary/police personnel involved in COVID-19 related activities"; and
  3. "symptomatic household contacts of laboratory confirmed cases."

In other words, HCQ is for anyone with the slightest chance of contracting COVID-19.

Not all are on board with its use. When doctors began using HCQ in Dharavi, anti-HCQ advocates approached the Bombay high court. But the court ruled in favor of HCQ:

Now, in a given case, if abiding by the law stricto sensu and waiting for a clinical trial of a drug would result in loss of valuable time for saving a patient and the choice is between the devil and the deep sea, i.e., no other drug except an HCQ sort of a drug, though not clinically tried for treating the disease, is the last option left for a doctor to save the life of such patient, should the doctor fold his hands and leave the patient to the mercy of the Almighty on the ground that the relevant drug has not been registered for use as prophylaxis? The answer, we are minded to hold, should be in the negative.

 

The court could have informed the challenger about the track record of efficacy of HCQ. ICMR's observational study of 334 health care workers at AIIMS hospital (10 minutes from my home in Delhi) revealed that 248 who took HCQ prophylaxis had lower incidence of infection than those who didn't. A similar study in three other hospitals in Delhi had similar results.

There have been only 27,497 COVID-19 deaths in India through July 19. With a population of 1.3 billion, that is an extremely low death rate of 19 per million, or 0.002 percent. (That is much lower than for tuberculosis, which kills 440,000 each year in India.)

The use of HCQ could be one reason why India's death rate is dramatically lower than that of some European countries, like Spain, with 607 deaths per million, and France, with 461.

The 139,659 deaths reported by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control by July 19 represent a rate about 20 times India's.

Doctors have shown that HCQ, in combination with zinc and azithromycin, can be very effective in early stages of COVID-19:

Risk stratification-based treatment of COVID-19 outpatients as early as possible after symptom onset with the used triple therapy, including the combination of zinc with low dose hydroxychloroquine, was associated with significantly less hospitalizations and 5 times less all-cause deaths.

HCQ may be saving millions across the globe except in countries where it remains controversial. White House Office of Trade and Manufacturing Policy director Peter Navarro pointed out the same last week:

It's the politicization of this medicine by the mainstream media and portions of the medical community that somehow made this a battle between President Trump and them and created this undue fear and hysteria over a drug, a medicine that has been used for over 60 years relatively safely and is regularly prescribed to pregnant women if they are going to a malaria zone.

India has exported tons of HCQ to the U.S, Canada, and dozens of other countries in the past few months. Despite having stockpiles, these nations have resisted its use. The American media and bureaucracies should move beyond their obsession with politics and honestly consider HCQ's efficacy.

 

Look at the difference in mortality where HCQ was freely available...
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The Key to Defeating COVID-19 Already Exists. We Need to Start Using It

As professor of epidemiology at Yale School of Public Health, I have authored over 300 peer-reviewed publications and currently hold senior positions on the editorial boards of several leading journals. I am usually accustomed to advocating for positions within the mainstream of medicine, so have been flummoxed to find that, in the midst of a crisis, I am fighting for a treatment that the data fully support but which, for reasons having nothing to do with a correct understanding of the science, has been pushed to the sidelines. As a result, tens of thousands of patients with COVID-19 are dying unnecessarily. Fortunately, the situation can be reversed easily and quickly.

I am referring, of course, to the medication hydroxychloroquine. When this inexpensive oral medication is given very early in the course of illness, before the virus has had time to multiply beyond control, it has shown to be highly effective, especially when given in combination with the antibiotics azithromycin or doxycycline and the nutritional supplement zinc.

On May 27, I published an article in the American Journal of Epidemiology (AJE) entitled, "Early Outpatient Treatment of Symptomatic, High-Risk COVID-19 Patients that Should be Ramped-Up Immediately as Key to the Pandemic Crisis." That article, published in the world's leading epidemiology journal, analyzed five studies, demonstrating clear-cut and significant benefits to treated patients, plus other very large studies that showed the medication safety.

Physicians who have been using these medications in the face of widespread skepticism have been truly heroic. They have done what the science shows is best for their patients, often at great personal risk. I myself know of two doctors who have saved the lives of hundreds of patients with these medications, but are now fighting state medical boards to save their licenses and reputations. The cases against them are completely without scientific merit.

Since publication of my May 27 article, seven more studies have demonstrated similar benefit. In a lengthy follow-up letter, also published by AJE, I discuss these seven studies and renew my call for the immediate early use of hydroxychloroquine in high-risk patients. These seven studies include: an additional 400 high-risk patients treated by Dr. Vladimir Zelenko, with zero deaths; four studies totaling almost 500 high-risk patients treated in nursing homes and clinics across the U.S., with no deaths; a controlled trial of more than 700 high-risk patients in Brazil, with significantly reduced risk of hospitalization and two deaths among 334 patients treated with hydroxychloroquine; and another study of 398 matched patients in France, also with significantly reduced hospitalization risk. Since my letter was published, even more doctors have reported to me their completely successful use.

My original article in the AJE is available free online, and I encourage readers—especially physicians, nurses, physician assistants and associates, and respiratory therapists—to search the title and read it. My follow-up letter is linked there to the original paper.

Beyond these studies of individual patients, we have seen what happens in large populations when these drugs are used. These have been "natural experiments." In the northern Brazil state of Pará, COVID-19 deaths were increasing exponentially. On April 6, the public hospital network purchased 75,000 doses of azithromycin and 90,000 doses of hydroxychloroquine. Over the next few weeks, authorities began distributing these medications to infected individuals. Even though new cases continued to occur, on May 22 the death rate started to plummet and is now about one-eighth what it was at the peak.

 

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A reverse natural experiment happened in Switzerland. On May 27, the Swiss national government banned outpatient use of hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19. Around June 10, COVID-19 deaths increased four-fold and remained elevated. On June 11, the Swiss government revoked the ban, and on June 23 the death rate reverted to what it had been beforehand. People who die from COVID-19 live about three to five weeks from the start of symptoms, which makes the evidence of a causal relation in these experiments strong. Both episodes suggest that a combination of hydroxychloroquine and its companion medications reduces mortality and should be immediately adopted as the new standard of care in high-risk patients.

Why has hydroxychloroquine been disregarded?

First, as all know, the medication has become highly politicized. For many, it is viewed as a marker of political identity, on both sides of the political spectrum. Nobody needs me to remind them that this is not how medicine should proceed. We must judge this medication strictly on the science. When doctors graduate from medical school, they formally promise to make the health and life of the patient their first consideration, without biases of race, religion, nationality, social standing—or political affiliation. Lives must come first.

Second, the drug has not been used properly in many studies. Hydroxychloroquine has shown major success when used early in high-risk people but, as one would expect for an antiviral, much less success when used late in the disease course. Even so, it has demonstrated significant benefit in large hospital studies in Michigan and New York City when started within the first 24 to 48 hours after admission.

In fact, as inexpensive, oral and widely available medications, and a nutritional supplement, the combination of hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin or doxycycline, and zinc are well-suited for early treatment in the outpatient setting. The combination should be prescribed in high-risk patients immediately upon clinical suspicion of COVID-19 disease, without waiting for results of testing. Delays in waiting before starting the medications can reduce their efficacy.

But what the FDA did not announce is that these adverse events were generated from tens of millions of patient uses of hydroxychloroquine for long periods of time, often for the chronic treatment of lupus or rheumatoid arthritis. Even if the true rates of arrhythmia are ten-fold higher than those reported, the harms would be minuscule compared to the mortality occurring right now in inadequately treated high-risk COVID-19 patients. This fact is proven by an Oxford University study of more than 320,000 older patients taking both hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, who had arrhythmia excess death rates of less than 9/100,000 users, as I discuss in my May 27 paper cited above. A new paper in the American Journal of Medicine by established cardiologists around the world fully agrees with this.

In the future, I believe this misbegotten episode regarding hydroxychloroquine will be studied by sociologists of medicine as a classic example of how extra-scientific factors overrode clear-cut medical evidence. But for now, reality demands a clear, scientific eye on the evidence and where it points. For the sake of high-risk patients, for the sake of our parents and grandparents, for the sake of the unemployed, for our economy and for our polity, especially those disproportionally affected, we must start treating immediately.

Harvey A. Risch, MD, PhD, is professor of epidemiology at Yale School of Public Health.

HARVEY A. RISCH, MD, PHD , PROFESSOR OF EPIDEMIOLOGY, YALE SCHOOL OF PUBLIC HEALTH

Harvey A. Risch, MD, PhDHARVEY A. RISCH, MD, PHD ,
PROFESSOR OF EPIDEMIOLOGY, YALE SCHOOL OF PUBLIC HEALTH

 

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Just some of the doctors

 

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The panel of doctors and credentials👇🏻

Simone Gold, MD - Emergency Medicine Specialist in Los Angeles, CA and has over 31 years of experience in the medical field. She graduated from Rosalind Franklin University Of Medicine Science/The Chicago Medical School medical school in 1989. She is affiliated with Centinela Hospital Medical Center.

Dr. Bob Hamilton - pediatrician from Santa Monica, California. Medical School UCLA Geffen School of Medicine, Los Angeles, CA. Internship UCLA Geffen School of Medicine, Los Angeles, CA. Residency UCLA Geffen School of Medicine, Los Angeles, CA.

Dr. Dan Erickson, DO - Emergency Medicine Specialist in Bakersfield, CA and has over 16 years of experience in the medical field. He graduated from Western Univ Of Health Sciences/College Of Osteopathic Medicine Of The Pacific, Western University Of Health Sciences medical school in 2004. (While both degrees mean your doctor is a licensed physician, their training differs slightly, and each has a unique perspective on care. “An M.D. follows an allopathic medical training path, whereas a D.O. follows osteopathic,”)

Dr. James Todaro, MD - a Ophthalmology Specialist received his medical degree from Columbia University, Vagelos College of Physicians and Surgeons in NY, and completed his surgical training with four additional years of residency in ophthalmology.

Dr. Joe Ladapo MD, PhD - Physician at UCLA and clinical researcher. Internal Medicine, American Board of Internal Medicine, 2011.
Residency Internal Medicine, Beth Israel Deaconess Med Ctr-East Campus, 2009-2011.
Internship Internal Medicine, Beth Israel Deaconess Med Ctr-East Campus, 2008-2009. Degree Harvard Medical School, MD, 2008 Harvard University Grad. School of Arts, Sciences, PhD, 2008.


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In Viral Video, Doctor Falsely Touts Hydroxychloroquine as COVID-19 ‘Cure’

By Saranac Hale Spencer and Angelo Fichera

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A widely shared video, featuring a doctor falsely claiming hydroxychloroquine is a “cure” for COVID-19, ignited an online storm that resulted in the video being pulled by social media platforms. There is no known cure for COVID-19, and current scientific evidence hasn’t found that hydroxychloroquine is an effective treatment.

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A video pushing the use of an unproven COVID-19 treatment has received widespread attention, including on Twitter by President Donald Trump and Donald Trump Jr., whose account was temporarily suspended for directly sharing the video.

Twitter, YouTube and Facebook have been removing the video since it started circulating on July 27 and amassing millions of views. The video spreads the debunked claim that COVID-19 can be cured with hydroxychloroquine — the drug that has been continuously touted by the president.

The clip features a Houston-area doctor named Stella Immanuel wearing a white coat in front of the U.S. Supreme Court building as she proclaims that a cocktail of hydroxychloroquine, zinc and the antibiotic azithromycin has cured COVID-19 patients.

Immanuel was speaking at a press conference arranged by an organization called “America’s Frontline Doctors.” We couldn’t find much information about the group and neither its founder, Simone Gold, nor its lawyer, Steven Mitby, returned our calls for comment. But the group appears to be connected to the Tea Party Patriots Foundation, which runs the conservative Tea Party movement. The group’s logo and an open letter to Trump written by Gold are featured on a webpage copyrighted by the foundation.

Gold is a licensed doctor in California, although it appears that she most recently ran a concierge medical business, which she described on her website as working “the same way as a highly effective Fortune 100 CEO.” Her website says Gold “reads the latest research, consults with the foremost experts, and examines the scientific literature” to provide “very high quality CEO-level information to her client-patients.”

However, in April, as the COVID-19 pandemic spread across the U.S., Gold stood outside the Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles wearing a white coat embroidered with her name above the words “Emergency Dept.” and recorded videos about her “experience practicing emergency medicine in this era of the COVID-19 crisis.”

In one video she claimed “the emergency department volume is down.” In another video in front of the hospital, she reported that, “we have been very successful at flattening the curve.”

But Gold has never worked at the hospital. In fact, the only time she was affiliated in any way with Cedars-Sinai was when she worked on a per-diem basis in a Cedars-Sinai Medical Network urgent care clinic for less than three weeks in 2015, Sally Stewart, a spokeswoman for Cedars-Sinai told FactCheck.org in an email.

Immanuel has an equally opaque background, and she didn’t return our calls either.

Immanuel is a licensed doctor in Texas and lists her practice as the Rehoboth Medical Center. That medical center is listed as being registered with the Texas Comptroller of Public Accounts in September 2019 by Solange Gabice. We reached Gabice by phone, but she hung up when we asked if her clinic was treating COVID-19 patients with hydroxychloroquine.

It’s worth noting also that the same strip mall in Katy, Texas, that houses the clinic also houses Fire Power Ministries, a Christian ministry run by Immanuel.

During a July 28 press briefing, the day after the video went up, Trump questioned why social media platforms had been removing it. “They’re very respected doctors,” the president said.

When a reporter asked him about Immanuel, who also has claimed that doctors make medicine using DNA from aliens, Trump noted that she appeared with several other doctors.

“I thought she was very impressive in the sense that she came — I don’t know which country she comes from — but she said that she’s had tremendous success with hundreds of different patients,” he said. “And I thought her voice was an important voice, but I know nothing about her.”

Hydroxychloroquine Not a COVID-19 ‘Cure’

In the video, Immanuel repeats the word “cure” a half-dozen times when referring to using hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19, saying it can prevent any COVID-19 deaths.

“Nobody needs to get sick. This virus has a cure,” she says at one point. “It is called hydroxychloroquine, zinc and Zithromax.” (Zithromax is a brand name for the drug azithromycin.)

First of all, there is no known “cure” for COVID-19, as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention points out. And the current scientific evidence doesn’t support the conclusion that hydroxychloroquine is effective in treating the disease, as we’ve explained before.

Since early in the novel coronavirus pandemic, hydroxychloroquine — a drug that is used to treat malaria and other illnesses — has been touted as a potential treatment. Trump has repeatedly cited it, at one point referring to it as a “game changer.”

But numerous randomized controlled studies have cast serious doubt on its effectiveness when it comes to COVID-19.

“There are no data from randomized clinical trials that demonstrate effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine for COVID,” Dr. Neil Schluger, chairman of the department of medicine at New York Medical College School of Medicine, told us in a phone interview. Schluger has studied hydroxychloroquine in relation to COVID-19. “There are now several randomized clinical trials that show that it had no effect.”

“The vast majority of expert opinions … is that hydroxychloroquine has no benefit in COVID illness,” he added.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, also said the drug is “not effective” for treating COVID-19 in a July 28 interview on ABC’s “Good Morning America.”

The overwhelming prevailing clinical trials that have looked at the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine have indicated that it is not effective in coronavirus disease,” Fauci said. 

As we’ve reported before, the Food and Drug Administration had issued an emergency use authorization in March to allow adult and some adolescent patients hospitalized with COVID-19 to obtain hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine from the Strategic National Stockpile “when clinical trials are not available, or participation is not feasible.”

Amid growing evidence the drug is not effective, the FDA announced in June that it had revoked the EUA for the drugs because they are “unlikely to be effective in treating COVID-19 for the authorized uses in the EUA,” and that the “known and potential benefits” of the drugs “no longer outweigh” the risks — which can include “serious cardiac adverse events and other potential serious side effects.”

A large randomized controlled study called RECOVERY, in the U.K., reported in a preprint, which hasn’t been peer-reviewed, that hydroxychloroquine wasn’t associated with reduced mortality — and was actually associated with “an increased length of hospital stay and increased risk of progressing to invasive mechanical ventilation or death.” The study said that 26.8% of the 1,561 patients given hydroxychloroquine died within 28 days, whereas 25% of patients given usual care died in that time span — a difference that was not statistically significant.

The authors wrote that “these results indicate that hydroxychloroquine is not an effective treatment for patients hospitalized with COVID-19.”

Another study published July 16 in the Annals of Internal Medicine — a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial that involved more than 400 participants  — found that “[h]ydroxychloroquine did not substantially reduce symptom severity in outpatients with early, mild COVID-19.”

There was one observational study by the Henry Ford Health System, published in the International Journal of Infectious Diseases on July 1, that found hydroxychloroquine was associated with lower mortality for patients hospitalized with COVID-19. But, as we’ve explained before, the study has limitations — and it stands in contrast to multiple randomized controlled trials that have found the drug is not beneficial to hospitalized patients (and two other observational studies).

During the press conference, Immanuel also claimed that a 2005 study “said it works.”

That study — which found that “[c]hloroquine is effective in preventing the spread of SARS-CoV in cell culture” — “is no evidence at all that it’s a cure for COVID,” Schluger said.

“That was a different coronavirus; that was the coronavirus that causes SARS,” he said. Secondly, he said, the study involved cells in test tubes. Potential drugs are evaluated in test tubes, then in animals, before they move into the three phases of clinical human trials, he said — and 90% of drug candidates that make it to human trials fail because they aren’t effective or aren’t safe.

A study in a test tube involving a different virus, Schluger added, is “not how the FDA approves drugs.”

Likewise, Dr. Radha Rajasingham, an assistant professor of medicine in the division of infectious diseases and international medicine at the University of Minnesota, told us in an email that “[w]hen something ‘works’ in cell culture, the next step is to test it in animals, and then in humans to prove efficacy in this setting. Thus, it’s not reasonable to make clinical decisions based on one lab-based study.”

Despite the evidence that hydroxychloroquine isn’t an effective treatment for COVID-19, Immanuel in the video generally dismisses such studies (erroneously suggesting that they only involved “20 people, 40 people”) — and claims she has successfully treated more than 350 patients.

She also says: “I’ve put myself, my staff and many doctors that I know on hydroxychloroquine for prevention. Because by the very mechanism of action, it works early and as a prophylaxis.”

There are scientists exploring the use of hydroxychloroquine as a prophylaxis, or preventive, and some results have been published.

Rajasingham and fellow researchers at the University of Minnesota published the results of a post-exposure prophylaxis randomized controlled trial of hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19 in the New England Journal of Medicine on June 3.

The double-blind trial recruited more than 800 volunteers who received either hydroxychloroquine or a placebo within four days of exposure to someone with confirmed COVID-19. Nearly 12% of hydroxychloroquine participants developed a COVID-19-like illness compared with 14.3% of those getting the placebo — a difference that was not significant.

Rajasingham said her group is currently analyzing the results of a trial that looks at hydroxychloroquine as a pre-exposure prophylaxis, involving 1,500 health care workers. 

“But without clear evidence that this works in randomized clinical trials (in humans) I would not believe this medicine is efficacious,” she said.

Schluger said he understands why the public is desperate for an answer, and why some might look to hydroxychloroquine. But “the job of doctors and scientists is to figure out if things really work — and as far as we can tell, hydroxychloroquine doesn’t seem to have any significant effect.”

He said doctors like Immanuel should submit their evidence for peer-review and “see if it stands up to scrutiny.”

Recommendations for Face Masks

At one point in the video, Immanuel claims, “you don’t need masks, there is a cure.” Immanuel and the doctors behind her in the video are not seen wearing face masks.

There is no cure, as we said. And the CDC has explained that face masks or coverings could help prevent the spread of the novel coronavirus by containing respiratory droplets created when people cough, sneeze or talk. That’s how the virus is primarily spread and containing fluids is called source control.

The CDC has been recommending the use of face coverings since early April, when the agency changed its initial position on the use of face masks during the COVID-19 pandemic, citing new studies on the transmission of the novel coronavirus.

We’ve written numerous stories explaining that guidance and correcting misinformation on the issue, but bogus claims like Immanuel’s continue to add to the confusion.

We’ve written before that there have been relatively few randomized controlled trials looking at the efficacy of face masks when worn by the public, and the ones that have been done are inconsistent or have not observed large effects. But given lab studies of how masks work, many experts support them, and the World Health Organization has, like the CDC, recommended their use during “severe epidemics or pandemics.”

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1 hour ago, spaghettiwasted said:

:fakenews: Doctor Falsely Touts Hydroxychloroquine as COVID-19 ‘Cure’ 

Here are the numbers @spaghettiwasted 

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1 hour ago, Pompeii said:

 

Here are the numbers @spaghettiwasted 

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Factcheck.org is not fake news.

I really have no opinion either way on the drug itself, it has shown mixed results just like any other drug would. I just have an issue with people claiming it as "the cure" despite no legitimate evidence of such, especially when one of these people also claim gynecological issues like cysts are caused by having sex with witches and demons in your dreams and that the government is actually made up of lizards in human suits, another claims to have treated Covid patients despite never doing so, another actively posts videos claiming to be an ER dept. doc at a hospital she only worked at for 3 weeks 5 years ago, and another makes his money by promoting Bitcoin and hasn't seen a patient since 2018.

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1 hour ago, spaghettiwasted said:

Factcheck.org is not fake news.

I really have no opinion either way on the drug itself, it has shown mixed results just like any other drug would. I just have an issue with people claiming it as "the cure" despite no legitimate evidence of such, especially when one of these people also claim gynecological issues like cysts are caused by having sex with witches and demons in your dreams and that the government is actually made up of lizards in human suits, another claims to have treated Covid patients despite never doing so, another actively posts videos claiming to be an ER dept. doc at a hospital she only worked at for 3 weeks 5 years ago, and another makes his money by promoting Bitcoin and hasn't seen a patient since 2018.

I have many doctors & patients on this thread that have had GREAT success with hydroxychloroquine.  Even a few democrats saying it saved their life. I can't imagine all or most of them lying??  

The most important thing about this drug is you will have fantastic results if you use it early,   not when you are on a ventilator or almost dead.  

 

All of those counties on the bottom pushed hydroxychloroquine as a top treatment for the Virus.   

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Look at the difference in mortality where HCQ was freely available...
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36 minutes ago, Pompeii said:

I have many doctors & patients on this thread that have had GREAT success with hydroxychloroquine.  Even a few democrats saying it saved their life. I can't imagine all or most of them lying??  

The most important thing about this drug is you will have fantastic results if you use it early,   not when you are on a ventilator or almost dead.  

 

All of those counties on the bottom pushed hydroxychloroquine as a top treatment for the Virus.   

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Look at the difference in mortality where HCQ was freely available...
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Fox News should never be used as a reliable source, but regardless I'm failing to see the relevance of your "even a few democrats" comment. What does political party have to do with anything?

HCQ has shown mixed results. Works for some, not for others. Multiple studies have confirmed both sides of the argument, which is why we can't truly say this is the cure.

Like I said, my problem lies within this group of crock doctors, not the drug itself.

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2 hours ago, Pompeii said:

I have many doctors & patients on this thread that have had GREAT success with hydroxychloroquine.  Even a few democrats saying it saved their life. I can't imagine all or most of them lying??  

The most important thing about this drug is you will have fantastic results if you use it early,   not when you are on a ventilator or almost dead.  

 

All of those counties on the bottom pushed hydroxychloroquine as a top treatment for the Virus.   

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Look at the difference in mortality where HCQ was freely available...
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Mr Pompeii.  The only valid question is if they test positive . Doctors will say we treat with the hydrochloroquine and or cocktail with Z Pac and Zinc.   Not redesimvir.  Do you want the drug treatment  Yes or No? Its a Pharma game. Just like the Vaccine.

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1 hour ago, spaghettiwasted said:

Fox News should never be used as a reliable source, but regardless I'm failing to see the relevance of your "even a few democrats" comment. What does political party have to do with anything?

HCQ has shown mixed results. Works for some, not for others. Multiple studies have confirmed both sides of the argument, which is why we can't truly say this is the cure.

Like I said, my problem lies within this group of crock doctors, not the drug itself.

 

If you want to debate this subject more , please start a thread in the debate club. Thank you

I've been doing research on hydroxychloroquine since the middle of March and I, myself would take this drug definitely,  if I ever tested positive for Covid-19. I've read over 1,000 articles, blogs,  facebook postings, youtube video, opinions, news ...  etc.

Hydroxychloroquine is still much safer than taking Tylenol and  Aspirin

... and still, many CNN hosts along with the MSM , will tell you that it will KILL YOU if you take it.

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#50. Losartan
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 70%

Number of Serious Reactions: 24,242

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 34,571

Therapeutic Class: Cardiovascular Agent

Brand Names: Cozaar


#49. Alprazolam
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 70%

Number of Serious Reactions: 51,950

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 73,606

Therapeutic Class: Antianxiety

Brand Names: Gabazolamine-0.5, Niravam, Xanax, Xanax Xr, Alti-Alprazolam


#48. Tramadol
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 71%

Number of Serious Reactions: 26,278

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 36,867

Therapeutic Class: Analgesic

Brand Names: Conzip, Fusepaq Synapryn, Rybix Odt, Ryzolt, Ultram, Ultram Er


#47. Venlafaxine
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 71%

Number of Serious Reactions: 33,623

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 47,132

Therapeutic Class: Antidepressant

Brand Names: Effexor, Effexor-Xr


#46. Sertraline
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 71%

Number of Serious Reactions: 45,622

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 64,182

Therapeutic Class: Antidepressant

Brand Names: Zoloft


#45. Metoprolol
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 71%

Number of Serious Reactions: 71,979

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 100,829

Therapeutic Class: Cardiovascular Agent

Brand Names: Lopressor, Toprol Xl


#44. Aspirin
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 71%

Number of Serious Reactions: 134,402

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 187,836

Therapeutic Class: Analgesic

Brand Names: Ascriptin, Aspergum, Aspirtab, Bayer, Easprin, Ecotrin, Ecpirin, Entercote, Genacote, Halfprin, Ninoprin, Norwich Aspirin


#43. Atenolol
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 72%

Number of Serious Reactions: 45,374

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 62,930

Therapeutic Class: Cardiovascular Agent

Brand Names: Tenormin


#42. Prednisone
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 72%

Number of Serious Reactions: 60,187

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 83,321

Therapeutic Class: Endocrine-Metabolic Agent

Brand Names: Deltasone, Prednicot, Prednisone Intensol, Rayos, Sterapred, Sterapred Ds


#41. Fluoxetine
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 73%

Number of Serious Reactions: 36,722

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 50,213

Therapeutic Class: Antidepressant

Brand Names: Prozac, Prozac Weekly, Rapiflux, Sarafem, Selfemra, Phl-Fluoxetine


#40. Fentanyl
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 74%

Number of Serious Reactions: 29,996

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 40,444

Therapeutic Class: Analgesic

Brand Names: Abstral, Actiq, Fentora, Onsolis, Subsys


#39. Acetaminophen
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 74%

Number of Serious Reactions: 119,389

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 160,481

Therapeutic Class: Analgesic

Brand Names: Ofirmev


#38. Amlodipine
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 75%

Number of Serious Reactions: 95,694

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 126,505

Therapeutic Class: Cardiovascular Agent

Brand Names: Norvasc


#37. Cyclosporine
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 76%

Number of Serious Reactions: 24,422

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 31,881

Therapeutic Class: Immune Suppressant

Brand Names: Gengraf, Neoral, Sandimmune, Apo-Cyclosporine


#36. Risperidone
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 76%

Number of Serious Reactions: 34,023

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 44,415

Therapeutic Class: Antipsychotic

Brand Names: Risperdal, Risperdal M-Tab, Risperidone M-Tab


#35. Warfarin
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 76%

Number of Serious Reactions: 79,961

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 104,230

Therapeutic Class: Anticoagulant

Brand Names: Coumadin, Jantoven


#34. Lorazepam
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 77%

Number of Serious Reactions: 42,737

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 54,873

Therapeutic Class: Antianxiety

Brand Names: Ativan, Lorazepam Intensol


#33. Valsartan
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 77%

Number of Serious Reactions: 46,987

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 60,639

Therapeutic Class: Cardiovascular Agent

Brand Names: Diovan


#32. Pantoprazole
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 77%

Number of Serious Reactions: 48,736

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 62,968

Therapeutic Class: Gastric Acid Secretion Inhibitor

Brand Names: Protonix, Protonix Iv


#31. Oxycodone
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 77%

Number of Serious Reactions: 56,165

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 72,020

Therapeutic Class: Analgesic

Brand Names: Dazidox, Eth-Oxydose, Oxaydo, Oxycontin, Oxycontin Cr, Oxydose, Oxyfast, Oxy Ir, Roxicodone, Roxicodone Intensol, Apo-Oxycodone Cr, Co Oxycodone Cr, Oxycodone, Oxy-Ir, Oxyneo, Pms-Oxycodone


#30. Drospirenone And Ethinyl Estradiol
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 78%

Number of Serious Reactions: 31,921

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 40,426

Therapeutic Class: Monophasic Contraceptive Combination

Brand Names: Gianvi, Loryna, Nikki, Ocella, Syeda, Vestura, Yasmin, Summer, Summer 28, Zarah


# 29th citalopram
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 78%

Number of Serious Reactions: 42,147

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 53,752

Therapeutic Class: Antidepressant

Brand Names: Celexa


#28. Diclofenac
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 79%

Number of Serious Reactions: 27,921

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 35,286

Therapeutic Class: Central Nervous System Agent

Brand Names: Cambia, Cataflam, Voltaren, Voltaren-Xr, Zipsor, Zorvolex


#27. Conjugated Estrogens
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 79%

Number of Serious Reactions: 40,659

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 51,272

Therapeutic Class: Female Reproductive Agent

Brand Names: Premarin, Premarin Vaginal


#26. Olanzapine
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 80%

Number of Serious Reactions: 32,222

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 39,957

Therapeutic Class: Antipsychotic

Brand Names: Zyprexa, Zyprexa Zydis


#25. Diazepam
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 81%

Number of Serious Reactions: 31,794

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 38,978

Therapeutic Class: Anticonvulsant

Brand Names: Diastat, Diastat Pediatric


#24. Rivaroxaban
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 81%

Number of Serious Reactions: 33,317

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 41,114

Therapeutic Class: Anticoagulant

Brand Names: Xarelto


#23. Alendronate
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 82%

Number of Serious Reactions: 39,257

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 47,769

Therapeutic Class: Calcium Regulator

Brand Names: Fosamax


#22. Clopidogrel
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 82%

Number of Serious Reactions: 70,205

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 85,447

Therapeutic Class: Platelet Aggregation Inhibitor

Brand Names: Plavix


#21. Furosemide
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 82%

Number of Serious Reactions: 102,865

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 124,020

Therapeutic Class: Cardiovascular Agent

Brand Names: Furocot, Lasix


#20. Digoxin
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 83%

Number of Serious Reactions: 30,355

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 36,506

Therapeutic Class: Cardiovascular Agent

Brand Names: Digitek, Digox, Lanoxicaps, Lanoxin, Lanoxin Pediatric, Digitaline Nativelle


#19. Spironolactone
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 84%

Number of Serious Reactions: 28,871

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 34,336

Therapeutic Class: Cardiovascular Agent

Brand Names: Aldactone


#18. Allopurinol
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 84%

Number of Serious Reactions: 30,921

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 36,755

Therapeutic Class: Antigout

Brand Names: Aloprim


#17. Morphine
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 84%

Number of Serious Reactions: 37,986

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 44,906

Therapeutic Class: Analgesic

Brand Names: Avinza, Kadian, Kadian Er, Morphabond, Ms Contin, Msir, Oramorph Sr, Roxanol, Roxanol-T


#16. Ondansetron
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 85%

Number of Serious Reactions: 31,005

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 36,133

Therapeutic Class: Antiemetic

Brand Names: Zofran, Zofran Odt, Zuplenz


#15. Ramipril
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 85%

Number of Serious Reactions: 32,374

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 37,895

Therapeutic Class: Antihypertensive

Brand Names: Altace


#14. Rosiglitazone
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 85%

Number of Serious Reactions: 87,352

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 101,873

Therapeutic Class: Antidiabetic

Brand Names: Avandia


#13. Medroxyprogesterone
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 89%

Number of Serious Reactions: 34,018

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 38,079

Therapeutic Class: Endocrine-Metabolic Agent

Brand Names: Provera, Alti-Mpa


#12. Lenalidomide
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 89%

Number of Serious Reactions: 69,123

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 77,417

Therapeutic Class: Immune Modulator

Brand Names: Revlimid


#11. Methylprednisolone
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 90%

Number of Serious Reactions: 30,040

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 33,095

Therapeutic Class: Endocrine-Metabolic Agent

Brand Names: Medrol, Medrol Dosepak, Methylpred-Dp


#10. Metoclopramide
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 91%

Number of Serious Reactions: 32,757

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 35,623

Therapeutic Class: Antiemetic

Brand Names: Metozolv Odt, Reglan


#9. Infliximab
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 91%

Number of Serious Reactions: 68,167

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 74,738

Therapeutic Class: Immunological Agent

Brand Names: Remicade


#8. Tacrolimus
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 92%

Number of Serious Reactions: 27,964

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 30,262

Therapeutic Class: Antipsoriatic

Brand Names: Protopic


#7. Zoledronic Acid
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 93%

Number of Serious Reactions: 35,581

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 38,016

Therapeutic Class: Calcium Regulator

Brand Names: Reclast, Zometa


#6. Dexamethasone
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 93%

Number of Serious Reactions: 38,966

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 41,636

Therapeutic Class: Endocrine-Metabolic Agent

Brand Names: Baycadron Elixer, Decadron, Dekpak 13 Day Taperpak, Dexamethasone Intensol, Dexpak, Dexpak 10 Day Taperpak, Dexpak Jr, Zema-Pak


#5. Clozapine
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 95%

Number of Serious Reactions: 29,470

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 30,914

Therapeutic Class: Antipsychotic

Brand Names: Clozaril, Fazaclo, Versacloz


#4. Rituximab
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 96%

Number of Serious Reactions: 30,014

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 31,157

Therapeutic Class: Antineoplastic Agent

Brand Names: Rituxan


#3. Bevacizumab
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 96%

Number of Serious Reactions: 39,957

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 41,281

Therapeutic Class: Immunological Agent

Brand Names: Avastin


#2. Prednisolone
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 96%

Number of Serious Reactions: 42,323

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 43,817

Therapeutic Class: Endocrine-Metabolic Agent

Brand Names: Bubbli-Pred, Cotolone, Flo-Pred, Millipred, Millipred Dp, Orapred, Orapred Odt, Pediapred, Prelone, Veripred 20, Pms-Prednisolone


#1. Cyclophosphamide
 
Percent of Reactions That Were Serious: 97%

Number of Serious Reactions: 33,128

Total Number of Reported Reactions: 34,076

Therapeutic Class: Antineoplastic Agent

Brand Names: Cytoxan, Cytoxan Lyophilized

 

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9 hours ago, alexandria said:

I hope doctors in the area will prescribe the drug and pharmacies will fill it..some states have forbidden this drug to be prescribed. 

The only state I am aware that banned its use was Ohio, but they quickly rescinded that regulation.  The ban was specifically for COVID use.   I do wonder if the Ohio Board of Pharmacy, or the pharmacy board of any state, has the legal authority to unilaterally ban the dispensing of a legal medication.

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Here are the doctors & physicians whose video was taken down from Facebook, Youtube & twitter.

I embedded the website below with video or you can go their website and watch it there also.

https://americasfrontlinedoctorsummit.com/

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