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Saw on CNN last night most (not all)of the vaccines will require 2 doses.  Also, their could  be side effects for the first 24-48 hours.  The doctor shrugged it off. Ill be waiting to see how many get really bad side effects or die from these vaccines.  And you still wont be totally protected. So if you are older do you take it and get side effects that may hurt you or  get the virus . Then it takes 2 doses.

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A nurse friend told me today that some of the vaccines cause impotence.  Gee! maybe they can use it as a contraceptive. Ill wait.  That's 2 times in 24 hours I have heard about the major side effects of the vaccines.  Paging DR Fauci! Where's Fauci on this? Waiting to make a ton of money. Saint Fauci is all over the place.

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I wouldn't go by a nurse friend.  Some of them can't be relied on for more than simple patient care.  Some are excellent, but don't stake your life on their suggestions.


"The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil but by those who watch them without doing anything"

Albert Einstein

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6 hours ago, jaman said:

A nurse friend told me today that some of the vaccines cause impotence.  Gee! maybe they can use it as a contraceptive. Ill wait.  That's 2 times in 24 hours I have heard about the major side effects of the vaccines.  Paging DR Fauci! Where's Fauci on this? Waiting to make a ton of money. Saint Fauci is all over the place.

Well that is what Bill Gates wants is population control and I am sure he has a hand in these vaccines. 


Every time the Government IMPOSES new Regulations to Protect Us, we LOSE a Little MORE of our FREEDOMS....

MORE Government = LESS Freedom

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On 12/6/2020 at 11:06 AM, Petee said:

I don't mind vaccines, but I will want to watch this for as long as possible to determine when I want to risk it.

This is fine, but, as those vaccinated are still recommended to wear a mask, just how long do you expect the vaccinated to continue to wear a mask?  I respect your right to not get the vaccine, wait it out, or whatever, but if you make a choice to bypass the vaccination, why would you expect me to  continue to wear a mask?  I realize it is not currently mass available to the general public, but once it is, and you choose not to,  then I think you are out there on your own.  You shouldn't expect people to accommodate you and other vaccine refusers/procrastinators by expecting the vaccinated to wear a mask to protect you.

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Information about the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine

Updated Jan. 1, 2021
 
More Information for Healthcare Professionals
 
 

General information

Name: mRNA-1273

Manufacturer: ModernaTX, Inc.

Type of vaccine: mRNA

Learn more about how COVID-19 vaccines work and get a better understanding of COVID-19 mRNA vaccines.

Number of shots: 2 shots, one month (28 days) apart

How given: Shot in the muscle of the upper arm

Does not contain:

  • Eggs
  • Preservatives
  • Latex

For a full list of ingredients, see Moderna’s COVID-19 Vaccine Fact Sheet for Recipients and Caregiversexternal icon.

Who should get vaccinated
Who should not get vaccinated
  • If you have had a severe allergic reaction (anaphylaxis) or an immediate allergic reaction—even if it was not severe—to any ingredient in an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine,  you should not get an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine.*
  • If you have had a severe allergic reaction (anaphylaxis) or an immediate allergic reaction—even if it was not severe—after getting the first dose of the vaccine, you should not get another dose of an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine.*
  • An immediate allergic reaction means a reaction within 4 hours of getting vaccinated, including symptoms such as hives, swelling, or wheezing (respiratory distress).
  • This includes allergic reactions to polyethylene glycol (PEG) and polysorbate. Polysorbate is not an ingredient in either mRNA COVID-19 vaccine but is closely related to PEG, which is in the vaccines. People who are allergic to PEG or polysorbate should not get an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine.

Learn more about COVID-19 vaccines and allergic reactions.

*If you have had an immediate allergic reaction—even if the reaction was not severe—to a vaccine or injectable therapy for another disease, ask your doctor if you should get a COVID-19 vaccine. Your doctor will help you decide if it is safe for you to get vaccinated.

Side effects and safety information

Most common side effects

In the arm where you got the shot:

  • Pain
  • Swelling
  • Redness

Throughout the rest of your body:

  • Chills
  • Tiredness
  • Headache

 

These side effects usually start within a day or two of getting the vaccine. They might feel like flu symptoms and might even affect your ability to do daily activities, but they should go away in a few days. Get tips on what to expect after getting vaccinated.

Summary of safety data

  • In clinical trials, reactogenicity symptoms (side effects that happen within 7 days of getting vaccinated) were common but were mostly mild to moderate.
  • Side effects (such as fever, chills, tiredness, and headache) throughout the body were more common after the second dose of the vaccine.
  • Most side effects were mild to moderate. However, a small number of people had severe side effects that affected their ability to do daily activities.
  • CDC will continue to provide updates as we learn more about the safety of the Moderna vaccine in real-world conditions. Learn more about vaccine safety monitoring after a vaccine is authorized or approved for use.

Learn more about safety and reactogenicity data from the clinical trials.

Information on how well the vaccine works

  • Based on evidence from clinical trials, the Moderna vaccine was 94.1% effective at preventing laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 illness in people who received two doses who had no evidence of being previously infected.
  • The vaccine appeared to have high effectiveness in clinical trials (efficacy) among people of diverse age, sex, race, and ethnicity categories and among persons with underlying medical conditions.
  • Although few people in the clinical trials were admitted to the hospital, this happened less often in the people who got the Moderna vaccine compared to people who got the saline placebo.
  • CDC will continue to provide updates as we learn more about how well the Moderna vaccine works in real-world conditions.

Demographic information from clinical trials

Clinical trials for the Moderna vaccine included people from the following racial and ethnic categories:

  • 79.4% White
  • 20% Hispanic/Latino
  • 9.7% African American
  • 4.7% Asian
  • <3% other races/ethnicities

Age and sex breakdown:

  • 52.6% male
  • 47.4% female
  • 25.3% 65 years and older

Most people who participated in the trials (82%) were considered to have an occupational risk of exposure, with 25.4% of them being healthcare workers.

Among people who participated in the clinical trials, 22.3% had at least one high-risk condition, which included lung disease, heart disease, obesity, diabetes, liver disease, or HIV infection. Four percent (4%) of participants had two or more high-risk conditions.

Learn more about demographic information for people who participated in the trials.external icon

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On 1/12/2021 at 2:21 PM, Illiterate said:

This is fine, but, as those vaccinated are still recommended to wear a mask, just how long do you expect the vaccinated to continue to wear a mask?  I respect your right to not get the vaccine, wait it out, or whatever, but if you make a choice to bypass the vaccination, why would you expect me to  continue to wear a mask?  I realize it is not currently mass available to the general public, but once it is, and you choose not to,  then I think you are out there on your own.  You shouldn't expect people to accommodate you and other vaccine refusers/procrastinators by expecting the vaccinated to wear a mask to protect you.

I do not make the decisions, and I really haven't taken the time to ponder on this.

I think researchers will have to do some testing to see how soon the vaccine is 100% effective to see when no mask is safe.  Then there will be the transition period for others to figure out how to deal with unmasked individuals.  I would love not to wear one.


"The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil but by those who watch them without doing anything"

Albert Einstein

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1 hour ago, Petee said:

I do not make the decisions, and I really haven't taken the time to ponder on this.

I think researchers will have to do some testing to see how soon the vaccine is 100% effective to see when no mask is safe.  Then there will be the transition period for others to figure out how to deal with unmasked individuals.  I would love not to wear one.

Not meant to harass you.  I pre-apologize if you happen to feel harassed.

You do get to make personal decisions, such as whether or not or if you get the vaccine when available to you and whether or not you expect others to wear a mask, which is mostly intended to protect you.

No vaccine is 100% nor will one ever be.  Masks are far less than 95% effective in either protecting the wearer or the other person.  The vaccine will be far superior to mask wearing.

Consider, if the population can be mandated to wear a mask, could they not also be mandated to get a vaccine?

So, here we go.....  

6 months from now, assume the vaccine has offered to you.  At that point you, for whatever reason, decide not to get vaccinated.  You walk into a room and there sit  Lyndsey33 and myself.  L33 is pretty much  anti-covid vax and anti-mask (based on her comments.)   I have been vaccinated (I have been...both shots).   L33, of course, isn't wearing a mask.  I have been vaccinated, and 95% effectiveness suits my my risk threshold, so I am not wearing a mask and don't expect L33 to wear a mask.  L33 doesn't expect me to wear a mask.   L33 has accepted her risk with no protection and I have accepted mine.  In this case, do you think we should should don a mask because you have entered the room?  Would you ask us to mask up, assuming you really had to be in the room?  Remember, you have actively made a choice to not get vaccinated.

 

Note that I am not anti-mask.  I wear one now on a regular basis.  It is required on my job and I figure if I can reduce the chances of transmitting by even as low as 10%, it is worth the minor inconvenience to me.  However, honestly, I am not willing to wear one out in public indefinitely based on the choices of others. If i know there is a specific, valid reason (i.e. getting chemo or otherwise immunocompromised) for not getting the vaccine, I most likely will don a mask, but then, I have done that even pre-COVID.   If you expect me to wear a mask, I can expect you to get vaccinated.

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9 hours ago, Illiterate said:

Not meant to harass you.  I pre-apologize if you happen to feel harassed.

You do get to make personal decisions, such as whether or not or if you get the vaccine when available to you and whether or not you expect others to wear a mask, which is mostly intended to protect you.

No vaccine is 100% nor will one ever be.  Masks are far less than 95% effective in either protecting the wearer or the other person.  The vaccine will be far superior to mask wearing.

Consider, if the population can be mandated to wear a mask, could they not also be mandated to get a vaccine?

So, here we go.....  

6 months from now, assume the vaccine has offered to you.  At that point you, for whatever reason, decide not to get vaccinated.  You walk into a room and there sit  Lyndsey33 and myself.  L33 is pretty much  anti-covid vax and anti-mask (based on her comments.)   I have been vaccinated (I have been...both shots).   L33, of course, isn't wearing a mask.  I have been vaccinated, and 95% effectiveness suits my my risk threshold, so I am not wearing a mask and don't expect L33 to wear a mask.  L33 doesn't expect me to wear a mask.   L33 has accepted her risk with no protection and I have accepted mine.  In this case, do you think we should should don a mask because you have entered the room?  Would you ask us to mask up, assuming you really had to be in the room?  Remember, you have actively made a choice to not get vaccinated.

 

Note that I am not anti-mask.  I wear one now on a regular basis.  It is required on my job and I figure if I can reduce the chances of transmitting by even as low as 10%, it is worth the minor inconvenience to me.  However, honestly, I am not willing to wear one out in public indefinitely based on the choices of others. If i know there is a specific, valid reason (i.e. getting chemo or otherwise immunocompromised) for not getting the vaccine, I most likely will don a mask, but then, I have done that even pre-COVID.   If you expect me to wear a mask, I can expect you to get vaccinated.

Very good way to put it.

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19 hours ago, jaman said:

Johnson & JOhnson has announced they have a ONE dose vaccine. They are applying  for FDA approval. With little side effects.

Side effects reported seem to be similar, difference is they don't last as long.  Hours not days, in most cases.

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Found this after thinking about this topic more.  I'm interested to know how safe the vaccines actually are and I'm a data geek.  Here is the CDC's database that is gathering all of the vaccine side effect information.  There is a wealth of information here and some might find it useful on determining their own decision on whether or not to get the vaccine. https://wonder.cdc.gov/VAERS.html

 

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