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I believe Dennis and Kem Parada want credit for finding the lost treasure which would help grow their business also bragging rights and i'm sure they realized they could not keep the treasure but ther

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Emails Reveal FBI Excavation For Civil War-Era Gold In Lawsuit Over "Hundreds Of Millions" In Disputed Booty

 

Did the FBI make off with 'seven to nine tons' of Civil War-era gold in a Pennsylvania forest after a treasure hunting duo led them to its long-hidden location?

A father-son team wants to know, and has successfully sued for access to government emails about the dig.

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Here's what we know, according to the Associated Press

On march 13, 2018, treasure hunters Dennis and Kem Parada, who co-own the treasure-hunting outfit Finders Keepers, led FBI agents to a location in "Dent's Run," located approximately 135 miles northeast of Pittsburgh.

The Paradas had spent years looking for the long-lost booty, an 1863 shipment of Union gold, which was either lost or stolen on its way to the US Mint in Philadelphia.

The FBI brought in geophysical consulting firm, Enviroscan, to survey the hilltop site, where their gravimeter identified 'a large metallic mass with the density of gold," according to Warren Getler, a consultant who worked closely with both the FBI and the Paradas.

An FBI agent told them the location of the mass was “one or two feet off Denny’s sweet spot,” recalled Getler, author of “Rebel Gold,” a book exploring the possibility of buried Civil War-era caches of gold and silver. “Then I went to ask how big is it. And he said, ‘7 to 9 tons.’ And I literally said, ‘You’ve got to be kidding!’”

That much gold would be worth hundreds of millions of dollars today — and, assuming it was there, would almost certainly touch off a legal fight over how to divvy up the spoils. -AP

The FBI says they found nothing at the site, while Enviroscan co-founder Timothy Bechtel said the FBI told him to keep his mouth shut about his findings.

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FBI dig site at Dent's Run, 2018

The Paradas, meanwhile, say the FBI struck a deal to let them watch the site excavation - only to confine them to their car for most of the two-day dig, only to escort them to a "large, empty hole" at the end of the second day.

The emails are quite revealing. In one, an assistant US attorney in Philadelphia, K.T. Newton, wrote in an email marked "Confidential,": "We believe the cache itself is in the neighborhood of 3x5x8 (feet) to 5x5x8."

Since the Elk County site was on state-owned land, the FBI had to secure a federal court order to gain access. The legal maneuvering generated emails between Newton and Audrey Miner, chief lawyer for the Pennsylvania Department of Conservation and Natural Resources.

On March 13, as FBI agents clambered up a hill to the target, Miner bluntly asked Newton: “Can you please provide the basis upon which the Office of the United States Attorney asserts that the gold, if found, belongs to the federal government?

Newton replied that a federal affidavit in the case was sealed. She instead offered to “discuss this generally with you on the phone,” according to email records released by the state under court order. -AP

Yet, on March 16, 2018 - two days after the dig ended, US Attorney Newton told Audrey Miner, chief lawyer for the Pennsylvania Department of Conservation and Natural Resources: "we are all disappointed and scratching our heads over the several scientific test results."

In a subsequent March 28 email, Miner asked Newton for an update on the federal investigation, writing that "the gold story still has legs, and the DCNR is now getting a lot of ‘gold-diggers’ interested in Dent’s Run," to which Newton replied: "For your knowledge only ... we have no other scientific evidence, other than what the excavation had been based on, that any gold is hidden in that area."

Miner replied: "I guess you can’t come right out and state there is no gold to be found at Dent’s Run?" to which the prosecutor replied: "Unfortunately, we cannot."

On Wednesday, the Paradas plan to hold a news conference, where they will present claims that include residents reportedly hearing a backhoe and jackhammer overnight "when the excavation was supposed to have been paused," and seeing a  "convoy of FBI vehicles, including large armored trucks."

"I gotta find out what happened to all that gold," Dennis Parada said last week, adding that the FBI's claim to have found nothing was "a slap in the face."

Cluck, meanwhile, is still pursuing government material on the case — nearly 2,400 pages, as well as video files, that the FBI has promised to turn over in response to his Freedom of Information Act request.

All documents in the federal court case about the dig remain sealed. For that reason, a state appeals judge recently declined to order the Department of Conservation and Natural Resources to give Cluck the federal writ of entry and seizure warrant that the FBI agents relied on to gain access to the site. -AP

In a curious development which may shed some light on what's to come, a Commonwealth Court Judge, Kevin Brobson, wrote in a footnote of a Jan. 28 opinion rejecting Cluck's petition for more information, that the name of the sealed case is: 

"In the Matter of: Seizure of One or More Tons of United States Gold."

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How did they transport 14,000 to 18,000 tons of gold worth hundreds of millions of dollars without someone noticing? No police escort? Just shove it into a tractor trailer and send it down the road? There appears to be a house behind the dig site. People around here seem to notice everything how did they miss that? Don't tell me nobody snooped. 

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If iw  was DCNR land why was the FBI involves?Said it was of historical importance then Penn State should have had their experts their during the dig so nothing of historical importance would be damaged...Should have gotten Names and pictures of the FBI agents and their ID.s .

 

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3 hours ago, lavender said:

Apparently people did see something being taken out and went on record. This was a historical find that was suppressed and denied the folks of Dent's Run of a tourist attraction. I am now a believer. My trust in the government just fell another few feet.  

 

https://apnews.com/article/b8b4d27254814894b3a79aa3083fb356

Not "feet", yards if not miles.🍻

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Lets see . We  have a Digger. Excavator. Is a shoveler next? How about bulldozer? Its ridiculous. And Im sure the FBI told you to keep your mouth shut. I f they didnt find any gold, theyd have have a big press conference saying they found nothing. Place a  bet they found some. How much is the question.

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did the machine used happen to come from a large excavating contractor working in DuBois who at the time was working in the DuBois city park.  Because I remember seeing that machine on the news and thinking that looks just like the one in the park next day it wasn't around day or so later it showed back up with a rock hammer sitting in the bucket.  always wondered if that was it an why no one ever asked this person if they did the dig for the FBI. 

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On 3/10/2021 at 9:49 PM, Guest excavator said:

the funny thing is no one asks who owned the excavator who dug for the fbi and it was me. I know what the real story is.

If you say you are who you are , why not give me a call. You have my number or send me a email at FindersKeepersUSA@yahoo.com. You are the only one not talking , WHY. everyone else is . This is history in the making and your name is not in it. We Know YOU SAW  NO  GOLD. You were a plant put there to dig when the FBI wanted you to dig , NOT there when the FBI dug all night,  so they had you fill in the hole they dug at night time. Ya they hope you would say , I SAW  NO  GOLD. and you did . BUT you back filled everything they did the night before. and that's why we want you to call us.

 

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On 3/11/2021 at 11:49 PM, Guest Treasure Hunter said:

If you say you are who you are , why not give me a call. You have my number or send me a email at FindersKeepersUSA@yahoo.com. You are the only one not talking , WHY. everyone else is . This is history in the making and your name is not in it. We Know YOU SAW  NO  GOLD. You were a plant put there to dig when the FBI wanted you to dig , NOT there when the FBI dug all night,  so they had you fill in the hole they dug at night time. Ya they hope you would say , I SAW  NO  GOLD. and you did . BUT you back filled everything they did the night before. and that's why we want you to call us.

 

What is the latest on this story?   

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11 hours ago, BigT said:

What is the latest on this story?   

The FBI did reply back to our lawyer Fri and they put a worker on our case to look at the files . Now we wait until they tell us, how long do we have to wait for the files. We still have 2 1/2 yrs to wait and that's to long. If its to long we will have Sen. Casey look into speeding things up. We hope to get this before Congress soon. We just released the News Conference video on our Face Book site .( Finders Keepers USA ) Its 1hr 15 min but it is worth looking at.

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On 3/11/2021 at 1:41 AM, lavender said:

How did they transport 14,000 to 18,000 tons of gold worth hundreds of millions of dollars without someone noticing? No police escort? Just shove it into a tractor trailer and send it down the road? There appears to be a house behind the dig site. People around here seem to notice everything how did they miss that? Don't tell me nobody snooped. 

People did notice but yes, putting it in a truck and just driving it away would be the logical choice if they were trying to hide it, which it appears they were. 

The neighbor tried watching with binoculars, would you have risked walking in the woods to snoop? 

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I followed this Fable  for years and at one time believed it, but after doing a lot of research on the guy who wrote the story all of those years ago Im not buying it anymore, especially when it went from 26 bars of gold to 7-9 tons.

I have tons of info on this and have been collecting it for a long time, I even talked to a guy from Pittsburgh who was a Police Sergeant  that went up twice a year looking for  it for  many years and he always came up empty handed.

Heres what I think is going on, the locals got tired of people running all over their land looking for this Fable and decided enough was enough and had the FBI come in and make it look like they found something, which they didn't .

 

And thats my take on the whole situation 

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1 hour ago, momtothree said:

People did notice but yes, putting it in a truck and just driving it away would be the logical choice if they were trying to hide it, which it appears they were. 

The neighbor tried watching with binoculars, would you have risked walking in the woods to snoop? 

Truck drivers might be a little crazy but I can't believe one would be crazy enough to drive down the road with that kind of load without an  armed escort. Nothing is secret if more than one person knows about it. It is a moot point anyway as local people saw convoys moving out of the location. I see so reason for them to lie. What they took out is an unknown. 

There is more than one way to snoop other than walking up to a location and demanding to see. I know people who have it down to a fine art. :rofl:

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i want the story to keep going the way it is going so enough said but maybe you should hire the guest that is INTERESTED he is pretty sharp

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The whole thing has become unbelievable. First I heard of it was that the army had piles of cash at various posts in the midwest, there to be able to pay the troops. Washington was worried that the Rebs might attack out there and seize the coins. Ordered everything back to Washington for safe keeping.

Why would there be any gold bars out in the midwest in the 1850s -1860s? Any, let alone tons? Piles of coins I can believe, tons of ingots? Pah! Someone has been smoking something odd.

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5 hours ago, BigT said:

I would like to know how a horse drawn wagon could haul all that supposed weight.  Twenty six bars would be possible, seven to nine tons impossible.

a few bars at a time?  Every time they went down the road, just looking like they were passing through.  

I do have to agree with you though--I don't think it's anywhere near the large amount that was believed to be there.  I could buy the story of a small stash, but not  the tonnage I've seen guesstimated.  

I hope the Parada's get their answers, but I don't think the FBI will ever disclose what was really there.  

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On 3/14/2021 at 1:41 AM, Guest Treasure Hunter said:

The FBI did reply back to our lawyer Fri and they put a worker on our case to look at the files . Now we wait until they tell us, how long do we have to wait for the files. We still have 2 1/2 yrs to wait and that's to long. If its to long we will have Sen. Casey look into speeding things up. We hope to get this before Congress soon. We just released the News Conference video on our Face Book site .( Finders Keepers USA ) Its 1hr 15 min but it is worth looking at.

Dont bet on Sen Casey. He's slow as molasses and is a do nothing most of the time. The gov found what they wanted.  Im sure the FBI at this point told everybody involved to keep quiet.

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