mr.d Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Pa. joins 16 other states considering mileage fee to replace gas tax REGIONAL NEWS by: Kate Sweigart Posted: May 7, 2021 / 11:15 AM EDT / Updated: May 7, 2021 / 11:15 AM EDT (WHTM) — Pennsylvania could get rid of the gas tax, but drivers would still pay to hit the road. The commonwealth is joined by 16 other states as members of the Eastern Transportation Coalition, formerly known as the I-95 Corridor Coalition, a group looking at replacing the gas tax with a mileage fee. Every vehicle would have a mileage counter that tracks usage. Then, drivers would be taxed on that data. “As fuel efficiency increases and more electric vehicles are on the road, the amount motorists pay to use our transportation system becomes more linked to the amount of fuel purchased versus the number of miles they drive,” the ETC explains on a page dedicated to the MBUF study. “A mileage-based user fee (MBUF) model provides a different approach: pay for what you use.” States stand to lose gas tax money with the rise of electric vehicles. This idea, though, is still in the study phase. For a map of gas prices in the Midstate, visit abc27’s Gas Price map! The study began in 2018 when the coalition launched its first “passenger vehicle pilot” as means to learn the ways in which a mileage-based user fee would work, in comparison to a gas tax. The study also considers the Eastern Seaboard perspective to the mix. Since then, the coalition has focused on several passenger vehicles and commercial trucks. SEE VIDEO REPORT ; https://www.wearecentralpa.com/news/regional-news/pa-joins-16-other-states-considering-mileage-fee-to-replace-gas-tax/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allboys Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 No. The number of miles I drive is of no concern to the government. It is not information they need. They are going to face a lot of backlash over this one, especially the conspiracy theorists that will worry about being tracked. pennstater, fedup, S_A_Hoov and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fedup Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Just more Liberal government intervention in our freedoms to move about in our once great country. When is it gonna stop? When will the voting Liberals say, enough is enough? Give us our freedoms like you offer the illegal lawbreakers invading our country. Basset3 and Titan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigT Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 hour ago, allboys said: No. The number of miles I drive is of no concern to the government. It is not information they need. They are going to face a lot of backlash over this one, especially the conspiracy theorists that will worry about being tracked. Every year when you renew your Pennsylvania tag there is a spot for the mileage on the vehicle renewal application. So big brother knows your mileage. NoRights 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allboys Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 12 hours ago, BigT said: Every year when you renew your Pennsylvania tag there is a spot for the mileage on the vehicle renewal application. So big brother knows your mileage. No. I don't go read my odometer when I fill that out Cacao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeper401 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 16 hours ago, BigT said: Every year when you renew your Pennsylvania tag there is a spot for the mileage on the vehicle renewal application. So big brother knows your mileage. Not me , I drive old stuff , my title clearly states " exempt from odometer disclosure" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwacm Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 5 hours ago, allboys said: No. I don't go read my odometer when I fill that out FYI mileage is recorded by the inspection mechanic when he or she is performing the PA state inspection on your vehicle. BigT, NoRights and MIM307 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 I like the idea of no gas tax, but not being track. I don't put a lot miles but pulling the camper burns down some fuel. I'd probably save money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fedup Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Don't forget, those who drive the coal burning electric cars pays no taxes for the roads they use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raisin Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 4 hours ago, Lizard said: I like the idea of no gas tax, but not being track. I don't put a lot miles but pulling the camper burns down some fuel. I'd probably save money If you think the gas tax is going away, I want some of what you are smokin. Government imposed taxes and programs NEVER go away. DS58, fedup and BigT 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigT Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 1 hour ago, raisin said: If you think the gas tax is going away, I want some of what you are smokin. Government imposed taxes and programs NEVER go away. i think we are still paying a tax on liquor in Pennsylvania from the 1889 Johnstown Flood. DS58 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 3 hours ago, fedup said: Don't forget, those who drive the coal burning electric cars pays no taxes for the roads they use. And i think that's the reason they want this change. They will be losing to much money fedup 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 44 minutes ago, BigT said: i think we are still paying a tax on liquor in Pennsylvania from the 1889 Johnstown Flood. Don't forget we still pay for CAT fund if you get cited. That was supposed to be temporary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradox Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Hey Wolf and PA…🖕🏻🖕🏻 NoRights and fedup 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastman Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 16 hours ago, fedup said: Don't forget, those who drive the coal burning electric cars pays no taxes for the roads they use. BS, not all electricity is produced in coal burning electric plants, electric vehicles still pay the tax on registration renewal, state inspection, tire tax, etc which are all supposed to be used for maintaining the highways. No I don’t currently own an electric vehicle but like it or not it is the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petee Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Most electric is now created with gas. The older coal burning plants are being phased out. Why do you think Biden wants everything to go to electric? Then they can tax it to death and we will have no recourse unless you know how to make your own biofuel. They are working on bankrupting the country anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fedup Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 22 hours ago, Eastman said: BS, not all electricity is produced in coal burning electric plants, electric vehicles still pay the tax on registration renewal, state inspection, tire tax, etc which are all supposed to be used for maintaining the highways. No I don’t currently own an electric vehicle but like it or not it is the future. How many tax dollars are spent subsidizing electric vehicles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigT Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 18 hours ago, Petee said: Most electric is now created with gas. The older coal burning plants are being phased out. Why do you think Biden wants everything to go to electric? Then they can tax it to death and we will have no recourse unless you know how to make your own biofuel. They are working on bankrupting the country anyway. Petee, The good old USA was well on the way to bankruptcy before Biden and the others were elected. Paying for our troops in Afghanistan and elsewhere was a huge drain on our country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastman Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 On 5/10/2021 at 8:24 AM, fedup said: How many tax dollars are spent subsidizing electric vehicles? How many tax dollars are spent subsidizing lazy ass people who don’t want to work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 Why not set up an electric use tax on cars that are registered to specific owners? Only they get billed this tax based on milage recorded at inspection time. Better yet, impose a one time lifetime electric use tax at purchase that covers the life of the car. They want to save the planet, let them pay for it up front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoRights Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Eastman said: How many tax dollars are spent subsidizing lazy ass people who don’t want to work? How do u answer a question with a question?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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