fedup Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 UPDATED: APR 1, 2019 ORIGINAL: SEP 5, 2017 7 of the Most Outrageous Medical Treatments in History Why were parents giving their children heroin in the 1880s? BRYNN HOLLAND It’s hard to keep up with the treatment recommendations coming out of the medical community. One day something is good for you, and the next day it’s deadly and should be avoided. Addictive drugs like heroin were given to kids to cure coughs, electric shock therapy has been a long used treatment for impotence, and “miracle” diet pills were handed out like candy. Below are seven of the most shocking treatments recommended by doctors. 1. Snake Oil—Salesmen and Doctors Collection of elixirs. (Credit: Efrain Padro/Alamy Stock Photo) While today a “snake oil salesman” is someone who knowingly sells fraudulent goods, the use of snake oil has real, medicinal routes. Extracted from the oil of Chinese water snakes, it likely arrived in the United States in the 1800s, with the influx of Chinese workers toiling on the Transcontinental Railroad. Rich in omega-3 acids, it was used to reduce inflammation and treat arthritis and bursitis, and was rubbed on the workers’ joints after a long day of working on the railroad.Enter Clark Stanley, “The Rattlesnake King.” Originally a cowboy, Stanley claimed to have studied with a Hopi medicine man who turned him on to the healing powers of snake oil. He took this new found “knowledge” on the road, performing a show-stopping act at the Chicago World’s Fair in 1893, where he reached into a bag, grabbed a rattlesnake, cut it open, and squeezed it. He labeled the extract snake oil, even though the FDA later confirmed that his products didn’t contain any kind of snake oil, rattlesnake or otherwise. That didn’t stop other unscrupulous doctors and fraudulent salesmen, who also started traveling the American West, peddling bottles of fake snake oil, giving the truly beneficial medical treatment a bad name. 2. Cocaine—The Wonder Drug Advertisement for Cocaine Toothache Drops,1890. Courtesy National Library of Medicine. (Credit: Smith Collection/Getty Images). Around the mid 1880s, scientists were able to isolate the active ingredient of the coca leaf, Erythroxylon coca (later known as cocaine). Pharmaceutical companies loved this new, fast-acting and relatively-inexpensive stimulant. In 1884, an Austrian ophthalmologist, Carl Koller, discovered that a few drops of cocaine solution put on a patient’s cornea acted as a topical anesthetic. It made the eye immobile and de-sensitized to pain, and caused less bleeding at the site of incision—making eye surgery much less risky. News of this discovery spread, and soon cocaine was being used in both eye and sinus surgeries. Marketed as a treatment for toothaches, depression, sinusitis, lethargy, alcoholism, and impotence, cocaine was soon being sold as a tonic, lozenge, powder and even used in cigarettes. It even appeared in Sears Roebuck catalogues. Popular home remedies, such as Allen’s Cocaine Tablets, could be purchased for just 50 cents a box and offered relief for everything from hay fever, catarrh, throat troubles, nervousness, headaches, and sleeplessness. In reality, the side effects of cocaine actually caused many of the ailments it claimed to cure—causing lack of sleep, eating problems, depression, and even hallucinations. You didn’t need a doctor’s prescription to purchase it. Some states sold cocaine at bars, and it was, famously, one of the key ingredients in the soon-to-be ubiquitous Coca-Cola soft drink. By 1902, there were an estimated 200,000 cocaine addicts in the U.S. alone. In 1914, the Harrison Narcotic Act outlawed the production, importation, and distribution of cocaine. 3. Vibrators—Cure Your Hysteria Handheld electric vibrator, 1909. (Credit: SSPL/Getty Images) We have 19th-century doctors to thank for the introduction of the vibrator, which was first advertised as a cure for a catch-all, female “disease” known as hysteria. Hysteria was believed to cause any number of maladies, including anxiety, irritability, sexual desire, insomnia, faintness, and a bloated stomach—so almost every woman showed some symptoms. The condition traced its roots back to ancient medical theories about “wandering wombs,” where a displaced (and discontented) uterus caused female ill health. The treatment? A “pelvic massage” that would induce “hysterical paroxysm”—commonly known as an orgasm. This job lay with Victorian doctors who manually massaged women. In an effort to spare the doctors this work, one ingenious practitioner named Dr. Joseph Mortimer Granville created a steam-powered, “electromechanical medical instrument.” Nicknamed the “Manipulator,” the device allowed women to give themselves home massages, allowing them to cure their “wandering wombs.” READ MORE: The ‘Father of Modern Gynecology’ Performed Shocking Experiments on Enslaved Women 4. Fen-Phen—A Miracle Pill for Weight Loss Bottles of Phentermine and Fenfluramine, commonly known as Phen-Fen. (Credit: Yvonne Hemsey/Getty Images) Today’s weight-loss industry is an estimated $60 billion business, a large portion of which is spent on diet pills. And while the first fat-busting pills went on the market in the late 1880s, no other pills have had quite the speedy rise and fall as Fen-Phen did in the 1990s.Originally released into the market as two separate drugs—the appetite suppressant Fenfluramine and the amphetamine Phentermine—they were marketed as short-term diet aids, but proved largely ineffective on their own. In the late 1970s, however, the two products were combined by Dr. Michael Weintraub to create what became known as Fen-Phen. Weintraub conducted a single study with 121 patients over the course of four years. The patients, two-thirds of which were women, lost an average of 30 pounds with seemingly no side effects—but Weintraub’s study didn’t monitor the patients’ hearts. The new miracle drug was first introduced into the market in 1992, and people could not get enough of it. Some doctors, looking for a quick way to make cash, operated “fen-phen mills,” where desperate patients looking to shed excess weight would pay anything for the pills. Soon, some 6 million Americans were using it. Recommended for you 7 Unusual Ancient Medical Techniques The Brutal History of Japan’s ‘Comfort Women’ How 5 of History’s Worst Pandemics Finally Ended In April 1996, after a contentious debate, the FDA agreed to approve the drug, pending a one-year trial. Almost immediately, reports of grave side effects started pouring in. That July, the Mayo Clinic said that 24 women taking fen-phen had developed serious heart valve abnormalities. Hundreds of more cases were reported, and by September 1997 the FDA had officially pulled fen-phen. In 1999, the American Home Products Corporation (the producers of fen-phen) agreed to pay a $3.75 billion settlement to those injured by taking the drug. More than 50,000 liability lawsuits were filed in the years following its withdrawal from the market, and patients are still able to file injury claims. 5. Heroin—The Cure for a Cough Pharmaceutical advertisement from a 1900 magazine, promoting the use of heroin for a cough. (Credit: Bettmann/Getty Images) How do you cure one drug epidemic? Create a new drug. That’s what happened in the late 1880s, when heroin was introduced as a safe and non-addictive substitute for morphine. Known as diamorphine, it was created by an English chemical researcher named C.R. Alder Wright in the 1870s, but it wasn’t until a chemist working for Bayer pharmaceuticals discovered Wright’s paper in 1895 that the drug came to market. Finding it to be five times more effective—and supposedly less addictive—than morphine, Bayer began advertising a heroin-laced aspirin in 1898, which they marketed towards children suffering from sore throats, coughs, and cold. Some bottles depicted children eagerly reaching for the medicine, with moms giving their sick kids heroin on a spoon. Doctors started to have an inkling that heroin may not be as non-addictive as it seemed when patients began coming back for bottle after bottle. Despite the pushback from physicians and negative stories about heroin’s side effects pilling up, Bayer continued to market and produce their product until 1913. Eleven years later, the FDA banned heroin altogether. READ MORE: Dr. John Kellogg Invented Cereal. Some of His Other Wellness Ideas Were Much Weirder 6. Lobotomies—Hacking Away Troubled Brains Dr. Walter Freeman performing a lobotomy. (Credit: Bettmann/Getty Images) Walter Freeman thought he’d found a way to alleviate the pain and distress of the mentally and emotionally ill. Instead, he created one of history’s most horrific medical treatments. Freeman developed his procedure, which became known as a prefrontal lobotomy, based on earlier research by a Portuguese neurologist. Early versions of Freeman’s “cure” involved drilling holes in the top of his patients’ skulls, and later evolved into hammering an ice pick-like instrument through their eye sockets, to sever the connections between the frontal lobes and the thalamus, which he believed to be the part of the brain that dealt with human emotion.Freeman soon teamed up with James Watts, and after practicing on cadavers, they performed their first procedure on a live patient in 1936, a woman who suffered from agitated depression and sleeplessness. It was deemed a success. But subsequent surgeries were not. Patients were often left in a vegetative state, experienced relapses, and regressed physically and emotionally. As many as 15 percent died. One of the most infamous victims was Rosemary Kennedy, the sister of future President John F. Kennedy, who was left incapacitated and spent the rest of her life needing full-time care. Freeman was as much a showman as he was a doctor, traveling to 23 states to demonstrate his miracle cure. In all, he performed some 3,439 lobotomies—some on patients not yet in their teens. And despite the obvious risks and lack of concrete success rates, hospitals willingly let Freeman continue, perhaps because lobotomized patients were considered “easier” to deal with. Everything changed in 1967, when Freeman performed a lobotomy on one of his original patients, a housewife living in Berkeley, California. This time, he severed a blood vessel and Mortenson died of a brain hemorrhage—finally putting an end to Freeman’s haphazard brain hacking. 7. Shock Treatments—The Cure for Impotence Electric belts featured in a Sears catalog, 1900. The medical profession has had varying opinions on the causes, and possible cures, for impotence. The repressive Victorians honed in on a man’s “moral weakness” as the cause for genital dysfunction, and by the 19th century impotence was thought to be caused by either an excess of sex or masturbation, or too little of it. As surgeon Samuel W. Gross noted in his book, Practical Treatise on Impotence, Sterility, and Allied Disorders of the Male Sexual Organs, “masturbation, gonorrhea, sexual excesses, and constant excitement of the genital organs without gratification,” would lead to impotence. Some doctors introduced “galvanic baths,” or bathtubs filled with electrodes, which were supposed to restore sexual desire in just six sessions. Others took an even more localized approach, where rods with currents running through them were placed inside the man’s urethra. The treatment would last for five to eight minutes and would be repeated once or twice a week. This was thought to be particularly helpful for those with significant atrophy to the genital area. Where a buck can be made off an insecure customer, then quack doctors and unsavory businessmen are sure to follow. By the late 1800s ads were running for “electropathic belts” or “electric belts” aimed at “weak men.” They claimed to help cure kidney pains, sciatic nerve issues, backaches, headaches, and nervous exhaustion—but the underlying message was they could cure men’s sexual problems. While today, impotence is seen as a blend of physical and mental issues, the belief that electric shock therapy is a useful cure for impotence still persists. Studies coming out of Haifa, Israel (2009) and San Francisco, California (2016) both claim there are merits to low-energy shock wave therapy to cure erectile dysfunction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourBoy Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Your post is totally irrelevant. 70 years after the polio vaccine and Polio is nearly irradiated worldwide. Is their some smallpox outbreak I'm unaware of? Different vaccines work differently. Take the flu. It doesn't get rid of the flu. If you are vaccinated you are just much less likely to get the flu and if you do get the flu the symptoms are generally much more mild. Then you have things like Polio and MMR which basically mean you aren't getting that disease. Furthermore, if you actually do some research you will see that MRNA vaccines have been in development for over a decade. And if you don't want an MRNA vaccine, take one like J and J and their will be more coming out I'm sure. Question: if you get covid, will you take the new pills that have just come out? Because a) you have know idea what are in those and b) they have been developed much more quickly than the vaccines. alexandria 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourBoy Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Just now, fedup said: UPDATED: APR 1, 2019 ORIGINAL: SEP 5, 2017 7 of the Most Outrageous Medical Treatments in History Why were parents giving their children heroin in the 1880s? BRYNN HOLLAND It’s hard to keep up with the treatment recommendations coming out of the medical community. One day something is good for you, and the next day it’s deadly and should be avoided. Addictive drugs like heroin were given to kids to cure coughs, electric shock therapy has been a long used treatment for impotence, and “miracle” diet pills were handed out like candy. Below are seven of the most shocking treatments recommended by doctors. 1. Snake Oil—Salesmen and Doctors Collection of elixirs. (Credit: Efrain Padro/Alamy Stock Photo) While today a “snake oil salesman” is someone who knowingly sells fraudulent goods, the use of snake oil has real, medicinal routes. Extracted from the oil of Chinese water snakes, it likely arrived in the United States in the 1800s, with the influx of Chinese workers toiling on the Transcontinental Railroad. Rich in omega-3 acids, it was used to reduce inflammation and treat arthritis and bursitis, and was rubbed on the workers’ joints after a long day of working on the railroad.Enter Clark Stanley, “The Rattlesnake King.” Originally a cowboy, Stanley claimed to have studied with a Hopi medicine man who turned him on to the healing powers of snake oil. He took this new found “knowledge” on the road, performing a show-stopping act at the Chicago World’s Fair in 1893, where he reached into a bag, grabbed a rattlesnake, cut it open, and squeezed it. He labeled the extract snake oil, even though the FDA later confirmed that his products didn’t contain any kind of snake oil, rattlesnake or otherwise. That didn’t stop other unscrupulous doctors and fraudulent salesmen, who also started traveling the American West, peddling bottles of fake snake oil, giving the truly beneficial medical treatment a bad name. 2. Cocaine—The Wonder Drug Advertisement for Cocaine Toothache Drops,1890. Courtesy National Library of Medicine. (Credit: Smith Collection/Getty Images). Around the mid 1880s, scientists were able to isolate the active ingredient of the coca leaf, Erythroxylon coca (later known as cocaine). Pharmaceutical companies loved this new, fast-acting and relatively-inexpensive stimulant. In 1884, an Austrian ophthalmologist, Carl Koller, discovered that a few drops of cocaine solution put on a patient’s cornea acted as a topical anesthetic. It made the eye immobile and de-sensitized to pain, and caused less bleeding at the site of incision—making eye surgery much less risky. News of this discovery spread, and soon cocaine was being used in both eye and sinus surgeries. Marketed as a treatment for toothaches, depression, sinusitis, lethargy, alcoholism, and impotence, cocaine was soon being sold as a tonic, lozenge, powder and even used in cigarettes. It even appeared in Sears Roebuck catalogues. Popular home remedies, such as Allen’s Cocaine Tablets, could be purchased for just 50 cents a box and offered relief for everything from hay fever, catarrh, throat troubles, nervousness, headaches, and sleeplessness. In reality, the side effects of cocaine actually caused many of the ailments it claimed to cure—causing lack of sleep, eating problems, depression, and even hallucinations. You didn’t need a doctor’s prescription to purchase it. Some states sold cocaine at bars, and it was, famously, one of the key ingredients in the soon-to-be ubiquitous Coca-Cola soft drink. By 1902, there were an estimated 200,000 cocaine addicts in the U.S. alone. In 1914, the Harrison Narcotic Act outlawed the production, importation, and distribution of cocaine. 3. Vibrators—Cure Your Hysteria Handheld electric vibrator, 1909. (Credit: SSPL/Getty Images) We have 19th-century doctors to thank for the introduction of the vibrator, which was first advertised as a cure for a catch-all, female “disease” known as hysteria. Hysteria was believed to cause any number of maladies, including anxiety, irritability, sexual desire, insomnia, faintness, and a bloated stomach—so almost every woman showed some symptoms. The condition traced its roots back to ancient medical theories about “wandering wombs,” where a displaced (and discontented) uterus caused female ill health. The treatment? A “pelvic massage” that would induce “hysterical paroxysm”—commonly known as an orgasm. This job lay with Victorian doctors who manually massaged women. In an effort to spare the doctors this work, one ingenious practitioner named Dr. Joseph Mortimer Granville created a steam-powered, “electromechanical medical instrument.” Nicknamed the “Manipulator,” the device allowed women to give themselves home massages, allowing them to cure their “wandering wombs.” READ MORE: The ‘Father of Modern Gynecology’ Performed Shocking Experiments on Enslaved Women 4. Fen-Phen—A Miracle Pill for Weight Loss Bottles of Phentermine and Fenfluramine, commonly known as Phen-Fen. (Credit: Yvonne Hemsey/Getty Images) Today’s weight-loss industry is an estimated $60 billion business, a large portion of which is spent on diet pills. And while the first fat-busting pills went on the market in the late 1880s, no other pills have had quite the speedy rise and fall as Fen-Phen did in the 1990s.Originally released into the market as two separate drugs—the appetite suppressant Fenfluramine and the amphetamine Phentermine—they were marketed as short-term diet aids, but proved largely ineffective on their own. In the late 1970s, however, the two products were combined by Dr. Michael Weintraub to create what became known as Fen-Phen. Weintraub conducted a single study with 121 patients over the course of four years. The patients, two-thirds of which were women, lost an average of 30 pounds with seemingly no side effects—but Weintraub’s study didn’t monitor the patients’ hearts. The new miracle drug was first introduced into the market in 1992, and people could not get enough of it. Some doctors, looking for a quick way to make cash, operated “fen-phen mills,” where desperate patients looking to shed excess weight would pay anything for the pills. Soon, some 6 million Americans were using it. Recommended for you 7 Unusual Ancient Medical Techniques The Brutal History of Japan’s ‘Comfort Women’ How 5 of History’s Worst Pandemics Finally Ended In April 1996, after a contentious debate, the FDA agreed to approve the drug, pending a one-year trial. Almost immediately, reports of grave side effects started pouring in. That July, the Mayo Clinic said that 24 women taking fen-phen had developed serious heart valve abnormalities. Hundreds of more cases were reported, and by September 1997 the FDA had officially pulled fen-phen. In 1999, the American Home Products Corporation (the producers of fen-phen) agreed to pay a $3.75 billion settlement to those injured by taking the drug. More than 50,000 liability lawsuits were filed in the years following its withdrawal from the market, and patients are still able to file injury claims. 5. Heroin—The Cure for a Cough Pharmaceutical advertisement from a 1900 magazine, promoting the use of heroin for a cough. (Credit: Bettmann/Getty Images) How do you cure one drug epidemic? Create a new drug. That’s what happened in the late 1880s, when heroin was introduced as a safe and non-addictive substitute for morphine. Known as diamorphine, it was created by an English chemical researcher named C.R. Alder Wright in the 1870s, but it wasn’t until a chemist working for Bayer pharmaceuticals discovered Wright’s paper in 1895 that the drug came to market. Finding it to be five times more effective—and supposedly less addictive—than morphine, Bayer began advertising a heroin-laced aspirin in 1898, which they marketed towards children suffering from sore throats, coughs, and cold. Some bottles depicted children eagerly reaching for the medicine, with moms giving their sick kids heroin on a spoon. Doctors started to have an inkling that heroin may not be as non-addictive as it seemed when patients began coming back for bottle after bottle. Despite the pushback from physicians and negative stories about heroin’s side effects pilling up, Bayer continued to market and produce their product until 1913. Eleven years later, the FDA banned heroin altogether. READ MORE: Dr. John Kellogg Invented Cereal. Some of His Other Wellness Ideas Were Much Weirder 6. Lobotomies—Hacking Away Troubled Brains Dr. Walter Freeman performing a lobotomy. (Credit: Bettmann/Getty Images) Walter Freeman thought he’d found a way to alleviate the pain and distress of the mentally and emotionally ill. Instead, he created one of history’s most horrific medical treatments. Freeman developed his procedure, which became known as a prefrontal lobotomy, based on earlier research by a Portuguese neurologist. Early versions of Freeman’s “cure” involved drilling holes in the top of his patients’ skulls, and later evolved into hammering an ice pick-like instrument through their eye sockets, to sever the connections between the frontal lobes and the thalamus, which he believed to be the part of the brain that dealt with human emotion.Freeman soon teamed up with James Watts, and after practicing on cadavers, they performed their first procedure on a live patient in 1936, a woman who suffered from agitated depression and sleeplessness. It was deemed a success. But subsequent surgeries were not. Patients were often left in a vegetative state, experienced relapses, and regressed physically and emotionally. As many as 15 percent died. One of the most infamous victims was Rosemary Kennedy, the sister of future President John F. Kennedy, who was left incapacitated and spent the rest of her life needing full-time care. Freeman was as much a showman as he was a doctor, traveling to 23 states to demonstrate his miracle cure. In all, he performed some 3,439 lobotomies—some on patients not yet in their teens. And despite the obvious risks and lack of concrete success rates, hospitals willingly let Freeman continue, perhaps because lobotomized patients were considered “easier” to deal with. Everything changed in 1967, when Freeman performed a lobotomy on one of his original patients, a housewife living in Berkeley, California. This time, he severed a blood vessel and Mortenson died of a brain hemorrhage—finally putting an end to Freeman’s haphazard brain hacking. 7. Shock Treatments—The Cure for Impotence Electric belts featured in a Sears catalog, 1900. The medical profession has had varying opinions on the causes, and possible cures, for impotence. The repressive Victorians honed in on a man’s “moral weakness” as the cause for genital dysfunction, and by the 19th century impotence was thought to be caused by either an excess of sex or masturbation, or too little of it. As surgeon Samuel W. Gross noted in his book, Practical Treatise on Impotence, Sterility, and Allied Disorders of the Male Sexual Organs, “masturbation, gonorrhea, sexual excesses, and constant excitement of the genital organs without gratification,” would lead to impotence. Some doctors introduced “galvanic baths,” or bathtubs filled with electrodes, which were supposed to restore sexual desire in just six sessions. Others took an even more localized approach, where rods with currents running through them were placed inside the man’s urethra. The treatment would last for five to eight minutes and would be repeated once or twice a week. This was thought to be particularly helpful for those with significant atrophy to the genital area. Where a buck can be made off an insecure customer, then quack doctors and unsavory businessmen are sure to follow. By the late 1800s ads were running for “electropathic belts” or “electric belts” aimed at “weak men.” They claimed to help cure kidney pains, sciatic nerve issues, backaches, headaches, and nervous exhaustion—but the underlying message was they could cure men’s sexual problems. While today, impotence is seen as a blend of physical and mental issues, the belief that electric shock therapy is a useful cure for impotence still persists. Studies coming out of Haifa, Israel (2009) and San Francisco, California (2016) both claim there are merits to low-energy shock wave therapy to cure erectile dysfunction. People will be including hrdrochloroquine and ivermectin and bleach someday on that list alexandria 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fedup Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Another expert cure ABOUT US THALIDOMIDE SURVIVORS RESOURCES & DOCUMENTATION NEWS WHAT IS THALIDOMIDE? A SHORT HISTORY OF THALIDOMIDE Thalidomide is a sedative drug discovered at the end of the 50s, which caused a worldwide tragedy. The drug has been prescribed to many pregnant women in order to relieve pregnancy nausea. It was later found that thalidomide caused irreversible damages to the fetus and thousands of children were born with severe congenital malformations. Many of them did not survive more than a few days after they were born. For a more complete historic of the Canadian tragedy, click here. The chemical formula for thalidomide is C13H10N2O4. It is also known under the scientific more scientific name α-(N-Phthalimido)glutarimide. Thalidomide was first synthesized in 1954 in Western Germany by the firm Chemie Grünenthal, who found out that thalidomide had interesting sedative effects. Thalidomide appeared as a promising alternative to barbiturates that were then used as sedatives, because it didn’t seem to be toxic nor have any side effects. An overdose would only cause deep sleep, as opposed to barbiturates which could cause death if taken in excessive quantity. Thalidomide was marketed in 1956 by Chemie Grünenthal in Western Germany, first as an anti-flu, then in 1957, as an hypnotic drug. It was then available without prescription. In April 1958, thalidomide was marketed in the United Kingdom by Distillers Company. Several countries followed suit and thalidomide was put into circulation under many different brands. Overall, thalidomide was sold under about 40 different names around the world, principally in Western countries and in Japan. Important advertising campaigns were led by its fabricants, starting with Chemie Grünenthal and Distillers Company. Thalidomide was described as a miracle drug. Thousands of samples were distributed to doctors, who were encouraged to prescribe it to pregnant women in order to alleviate pregnancy nausea. Everyone was told that this drug represented no risk at all for pregnant women. The following excerpt, from the website of the documentary “NO Limits” addressing the thalidomide tragedy, describes particularly well how negligent Grünenthal was regarding the safety of thalidomide: “What the public did not know is that Grünenthal had no reliable evidence to back up its claims that the drug was safe. They also ignored the increasing number of reports coming in about harmful side-effects as the drug was being used. In fact, starting in 1959 Grünenthal was flooded with complaints from doctors about mild to severe and sometimes permanent nerve damage, especially by elderly people who had used the drug as a sleeping aid. […] The company was equally dismissive of concerns related to deformed babies. The drug was widely promoted as an anti-nausea drug for pregnant women experiencing morning sickness. When the company was confronted with reports on malformed babies and suggestions that the malformations could be possibly linked to Thalidomide, they didn’t react. Instead of taking all those reports seriously Grünenthal responded with measures to keep the drug on the market.” As early as 1960, unsuspected side effects on the nervous system started to be attributed to thalidomide by some doctors. The first concerns about teratogenic hazards were raised in Western Germany in October 1961. We had to wait more than six weeks after that for the drug to be withdrawn from the british and german markets, at the end of November and in early December. But it was already too late: thousands of babies around the world would be born with severe malformations. Other authorities were even slower to withdraw thalidomide from the market, so that in some countries, it was available until the end of 1963. It is hard to tell with precision how many thalidomide victims there is, because a lot of babies were dead before birth, stillborn or died soon after birth due to the severity of their malformations. Not all of these births were registered in proper form, especially considering that several thalidomiders infants are believed to have been infanticide victims. It is estimated that 15,000 children were born worldwide with malformations attributable to thalidomide. The victims also include the families of all these children, whose life were severely impacted by this tragedy. Not so long after that, new therapeutical effects were discovered to thalidomide, for treating or alleviating leprosy, systemic lupus erythematosus and some cancers, among others. The drug is currently available in many countries for these uses. To know more about the actual uses of thalidomide, click here. MAIN HAZARDS AND SIDE EFFECTS LINKED TO THALIDOMIDE Peripheral neuritis Peripheral neuritis is a type of nerve injury that may happen when one takes thalidomide. Peripheral neuritis can manifest anywhere in the body. It begins with a tingling sensation in hands and feet, followed by numbness and sensations of cold. The numbness expands and is followed by severe muscular cramps, a weakness of the limbs and a lack of coordination. Some of these symptoms can improve or disappear, but in some cases, the damages are irreversible. Patients on thalidomide are recommended to cease treatment immediately and contact their doctor if they experience nerve injury symptoms such as: a burning sensation, numbness or pins and needles in the arms, hand, legs or feet. Fetal impairment Here is a non-exhaustive list of the impacts that thalidomide may have on the fetus when taken by pregnant women: bilateral limb atrophy (legs, arms or both) – a condition known as phocomelia, bilateral limb absence (amelia), missing fingers or toes, palmature of the fingers or toes, extra fingers or toes, total or partial hearing loss, partial or total vision loss, paralysis (usually facial muscles), malformation of the digestive tube, malformation of the duodenum (most of the time lethal, before or not long after birth), malformation or absence of the anus, vital organs injury (most of the time lethal, before or not long after birth), death. Because of the aforementioned devastating effects, thalidomide is strictly contraindicated on pregant women or women and women at risk of becoming pregnant. You can find more detailed information about congenital malformations linked to thalidomide in the Congenital malformations section of our website. For more information on the hazards and side effects of the drug thalidomide, visit Health Canada’s page on THALOMID. THE MECHANISM OF THALIDOMIDE As of today, the mechanism by which thalidomide cause birth defects is not confirmed. There are, however, a few hypotheses regarding its effects on the organism, which have been published by researchers in various journals. As these are articles of a scientific nature whose writing style is rather technical, you will find these references in the Publications & Links section of our website, under “Academic and Scientific Publications”. https://thalidomide.ca/en/what-is-thalidomide/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fedup Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, YourBoy said: Your post is totally irrelevant. 70 years after the polio vaccine and Polio is nearly irradiated worldwide. Is their some smallpox outbreak I'm unaware of? Different vaccines work differently. Take the flu. It doesn't get rid of the flu. If you are vaccinated you are just much less likely to get the flu and if you do get the flu the symptoms are generally much more mild. Then you have things like Polio and MMR which basically mean you aren't getting that disease. Furthermore, if you actually do some research you will see that MRNA vaccines have been in development for over a decade. And if you don't want an MRNA vaccine, take one like J and J and their will be more coming out I'm sure. Question: if you get covid, will you take the new pills that have just come out? Because a) you have know idea what are in those and b) they have been developed much more quickly than the vaccines. Your post is totally irrelevant. Of course it is to you. Refresh your brain----it took 200 years to find a cure. Not 2 years. alexandria 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourBoy Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Who cares how long it took? My post is not irrelevant. You just keep inventing reasons to be scared alexandria and Titan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourBoy Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 You are comparing today’s technology to that of 200 years ago? Titan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourBoy Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 You haven't answered any of my questions? Did you quit driving your car? alexandria and Titan 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leahbarn Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Your boy this is America! Quit trying to force one side fits all to everyone. That's is like forcing some frilly girl type to wear swearpants. We all get to choose our way. Might be the right way might not but it's our choice. I read this thread for everyone else's opinion. Yours is too pushy. I only get the flu if I get the flu shot. Havent had the shot for almost 20 years haven't had the flu for almost 20 years. Last shot had the worst flu of my life. People I personally know who got covid got it after being vaxxed. Glad the shot worked for you, but quit trying to shove it down everyone else's throat. alexandria, Titan and fedup 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourBoy Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 I’m not. You can do whatever you want. Just be prepared to face the consequences of those actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 54 minutes ago, YourBoy said: I’m not. You can do whatever you want. Just be prepared to face the consequences of those actions. And you be prepared to face the consequences of your actions. Let it be. alexandria 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourBoy Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 45 minutes ago, Titan said: And you be prepared to face the consequences of your actions. Let it be. I am. I’m not out here complaining about doing my job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petee Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 On 11/19/2021 at 8:35 PM, YourBoy said: A lot of people need to learn that just because you are free to do or not do something does not mean you are free from the consequences of that choice. Fine don't get the vaccine but the consequence is you don't get to work at a healthcare facility whose job it is to heal and protect patient health. To work at Penn Highlands you are tested for all kinds of anti-bodies upon hire and if you are missing any, you have to get vaccinated for those. Health care workers chose this field. They chose to help patients and do what is in the patients' best interest not what is in their own. Now during a pandemic they want to put themselves before the patients? The vaccine is clearly the best way to protect yourself and others from Covid. Get the vaccine if you care about your patients. Healthcare workers from history are surely rolling in their graves at the cowards and selfish babies that now work in the healthcare field. Just down the road during the Polio outbreak millions of parents in Pittsburgh signed their children up and themselves to test the Polio vaccine to protect the rest of the world. Where would we be if they had acted so cowardly? Get the vaccine and do your jobs. The problem is that they can't afford to lose any more health care workers to vaccine complications, nor will it insure that they won't carry the infection back into the hospital or to their families. Just wear masks if you don't get the vaccine. My daughter has been wearing a mask now for a couple of years and will probably continue to do so for years to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petee Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Just now, Petee said: The problem today is that the vaccines are being developed on fetal cell lines, not in eggs as was usual. Flu shots are still developed on eggs, but they are trying to do them on fetal cell lines now. Basically, it's easier to murder a baby than to use eggs. That's a problem that I can't agree to, so I suppose I won't be able to get the Flu shot now either. Someone has to stand up for the babies. They are not "tissue" for sale to the highest bidder. Yes, they are still doing it today even as we discuss this problem. Babies are killed second before birth by ramming a sharp instrument into their spinal cord at the base of their brain while the head is still inside of the mother which makes it legal! They sedate the mother so she doesn't have to experience the murder or feel the baby spasm as it dies. Then it is taken and dissected with the pieces sent all over the world. Feel good about being a part of this sin? I'm still sick and not sleeping properly because I found that some of my medications were also developed on fetal cell lines. I am working to get off of all I can and will do without the rest. There are herbals that will do the exact same thing but they can't make money on them!!!! Add to that, aspirin, Tylenol and Ibuprophen are all developed on fetal cell lines. Get the picture yet? We are cannibals profiting on the death of our children. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexandria Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 20 hours ago, YourBoy said: Point here is we need healthcare workers. Now is not the time to take some personal stand. The vaccination is safe. Get it and do your job. We need you. The kill shot is NOT safe. Where is your data? UK just released a report from their Medical Service that the clot shot killed 30,000 people and injured 1 million. You must be a Communist News Network addict. Do you not read other sources than the lying MSM...MSM is propaganda to convince you on a certain viewpoint... oh yeah, the data will be released in 2076...hope you can wait that long fedup and Titan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexandria Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Parent's are going to get a shock when they realize the meaning of "no liability" when their child dies or gets myarcarditis. Titan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fedup Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 4 hours ago, YourBoy said: Who cares how long it took? My post is not irrelevant. You just keep inventing reasons to be scared The only thing I am scared of is stupid brainwashed Liberals. If you had the ability to use your brain, you would care about how long it took the experts compared to the 2 years of research of a chemical you choose to accept, even for your kids, that has no say in the matter. Daddy listened to Don Lemon so daddy knows everything. You should be afraid of the Liberal propaganda that is being used to control your thoughts and actions. Your kids are your responsibility. You owe them the best you got, not the freaking politics that you are allowing to control your life alexandria 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fedup Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 4 hours ago, YourBoy said: You haven't answered any of my questions? Did you quit driving your car? GOOD GRIEF Did you quit accepting government demanding needles? You are completely brainwashed by those that you allow to control your life. alexandria 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fedup Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 35 minutes ago, alexandria said: Parent's are going to get a shock when they realize the meaning of "no liability" when their child dies or gets myarcarditis. TA DAH TA DAH TA DAH Your voted for government never ever accepts responsibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourBoy Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Titan said: And you be prepared to face the consequences of your actions. Let it be. I am. I’m not out here complaining about doing my job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourBoy Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 You all are pretty confused by rare events vs millions of people dead from covid. I’ve talked to many doctors. I work in the pharma field. I’ve done my own research. hospital staff is not missing time for vaccine side effects. That’s frankly laughable. They are missing time from having covid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMJ77 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Some people have adverse reactions to Penicillin. Are we all going to stop taking antibiotics? no....BUT....those that are have the choice not to take it and take something that also works for them...these 3 shots are not the only way to fight covid but our gov wants to make you think they are....why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMJ77 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 URGENT: Dr. Peter McCullough Calls For Immediate VAXX HALT (redvoicemedia.com) alexandria 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petee Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Those in charge went about this the entirely wrong way. We're Americans, always told that we are free citizens with our own voice and choices. Amish are a great example of how to live your own life without government interference and they do an excellent job of it!. Why do they get choices and the English don't? And don't think for even a second that I'm complaining about them. I would protect them in a heartbeat! How about simple reasoning and consideration instead of destroying lives with every stupid move they have made! Many families have schooled their own kids, some use natural cures, some choose to live without electricity and water. It's about responsible choices! Why can't people choose to get this infection and develop their own immunity to it which is far superior to any other choices. Start fining people who come to work sick! If they do it twice, then they can find another job. It's that simple. Do a daily check when they arrive, masks if they choose non-vaccine, and they see a doctor to come back to work. Forget the 14 day quarantine. That's the entire problem. They want to do an unethical swat approach to the entire country forgetting that this is a democracy and America makes accommodations for for everyone no matter how different they may be. They're saying, you can live and work here, but only if you fit into the generic mold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyndsey33 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 32 minutes ago, Petee said: Those in charge went about this the entirely wrong way. We're Americans, always told that we are free citizens with our own voice and choices. Amish are a great example of how to live your own life without government interference and they do an excellent job of it!. Why do they get choices and the English don't? And don't think for even a second that I'm complaining about them. I would protect them in a heartbeat! How about simple reasoning and consideration instead of destroying lives with every stupid move they have made! Many families have schooled their own kids, some use natural cures, some choose to live without electricity and water. It's about responsible choices! Why can't people choose to get this infection and develop their own immunity to it which is far superior to any other choices. Start fining people who come to work sick! If they do it twice, then they can find another job. It's that simple. Do a daily check when they arrive, masks if they choose non-vaccine, and they see a doctor to come back to work. Forget the 14 day quarantine. That's the entire problem. They want to do an unethical swat approach to the entire country forgetting that this is a democracy and America makes accommodations for for everyone no matter how different they may be. They're saying, you can live and work here, but only if you fit into the generic mold. Last year you were completely flipping out over anyone making their own choices regarding covid. What changed? MIM307, Cacao and buschpounder 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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