mr.d Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS58 Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 Well of course they can’t use any of their by pristine air space in western MD, that would rile up the western Marylanders who leave the ****holes they work in to “escape”. MD ANG Generals “wait we have an idea, let’s defecate all over PA, they’re just hicks up there anyway. Landfills get away with it all the time. Ya that’s a good idea”. Can’t wait !!! jaman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaman Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 The mountains are more better for training in Western MD and Northern Virginia. JimmyPete 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyPete Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 Gota get ready for the mountains in china jaman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rnetzlof Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 There's already, and has been a large military operations area in our neck of the woods. (See attached map) Looks to me that the request is to allow lower level flights within that area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basset3 Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 Military Training Route is highlighted in yellow (VR704 with red arrow) depicting the route military pilots use in training. It used to be called the "Olive Branch" because it looked like an olive branch on the map. They fly at nearly tree top level...it's scary when you first hear them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bon Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 They have been doing this for a few years already. I was out at Shaggers a couple of years ago when a military plane flew over at tree top level. He waved & I waved back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtRick417 Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 Well, this may be interesting for me. I don't agree with their decision but... any way ... I served in SAudi during Desert Storm and saw quite a few A-10's. Sure look impressive. Maybe seeing them again will make me feel younger. Basset3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMJ77 Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 are there many trees in Saudi? ..... seems they should be over sand and mountains Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtRick417 Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 Trees? Well the officer in charge told there was a tavern under every apple tree there but I never found that tree. Ha ha ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bon Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2021/05/saudi-arabia-plans-plant-10-billion-trees-desert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaman Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 On 11/25/2021 at 7:41 PM, rnetzlof said: There's already, and has been a large military operations area in our neck of the woods. (See attached map) Looks to me that the request is to allow lower level flights within that area. At night near brockway you can hear the jet fighters periodically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator11 Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 Back in the early 80's when I was working on the making of the Silverwoods course in TL (we called it Siberia) they flew at tree top levels all the time. You did not hear them until they were right on top of you. It did get your heart pumping LOL so nothing they haven't done in the past Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fedup Posted Monday at 02:02 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:02 PM Try living and working between Tyndall air force base and Eglin air force base. The F-22's and F-35's are something to see and hear. The sounds of freedom. SgtRick417 and DS58 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cacao Posted Monday at 02:43 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:43 PM On 11/25/2021 at 10:57 AM, jaman said: The mountains are more better for training in Western MD and Northern Virginia. I believe the issue might reside with commercial flights. Western MD/Northern VA has heavy commercial flight traffic. Commercial airliners generally run the I-80 corridor and will not cause disruptions to their training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cacao Posted Monday at 02:44 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:44 PM 41 minutes ago, fedup said: Try living and working between Tyndall air force base and Eglin air force base. The F-22's and F-35's are something to see and hear. The sounds of freedom. When I lived in Harrisburg, they flew over Ft. Indiantown Gap 2-3 days a week. Very loud and entertaining...especially at night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fedup Posted Monday at 04:11 PM Share Posted Monday at 04:11 PM 1 hour ago, Cacao said: When I lived in Harrisburg, they flew over Ft. Indiantown Gap 2-3 days a week. Very loud and entertaining...especially at night. They fly here every day. 2 at a time. I am right under their landing path. Bon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.d Posted Thursday at 11:47 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 11:47 PM Possible flight training in Central Pa could impact wildlife LOCAL NEWS by: Yanni Tragellis Posted: Dec 2, 2021 / 06:13 PM EST / Updated: Dec 2, 2021 / 06:13 PM EST SUBSCRIBE NBreaking News CLEARFIELD COUNTY, Pa. (WTAJ) – Flight training for the Maryland Air National Guard could be coming to our area, and the impacts of it could be felt across our central Pa region on both the wildlife side and through tourism dollars. Some concerns have been brought forward by Pennsylvania’s 15th district representative, Congressman Glenn “GT” Thompson because these training would include low altitude flights, which could be as close as just 100 feet off the ground. These proposed flight training would happen 170 days of the year in the Pennsylvania Wilds region, for four hours per day. The impact of these low altitude flights would be felt by the large elk herd population in our region, as well as the migratory bird population and bald eagles. And Thompson said it could also cause a disturbance that would affect tourism in the area. Tourism in the central Pa region is heavily influenced by the elk population, with many coming into the area during rutting season. “Those are just some of the issues that are out there that need to be studied before a rash decision is made” Congressman Thompson told me that while he supports the training of the Air National Guard, he hopes that another location can be found for these flight paths, that would have less of an environmental impact. “The cumulative impact, the potential disturbance of this low MOA would be outstandingly detrimental to our region,” Congressman Thompson said. Thompson added that those who may be concerned about the impact of these possible flight trainings should reach out to Governor Tom Wolf’s office to ask him to be an advocate with the Pennsylvania Wilds. SEE VIDEO REPORT ; https://www.wearecentralpa.com/news/local-news/possible-flight-training-in-central-pa-could-impact-wildlife/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser Soze Posted yesterday at 12:03 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:03 AM Let them fly. fedup 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtRick417 Posted yesterday at 12:31 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:31 AM (edited) Perhaps they could fly straffing runs over Baltimore City? Scare the city wildlife? Edited yesterday at 12:32 AM by SgtRick417 Spelling error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavender Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago On 11/27/2021 at 11:13 AM, Gator11 said: Back in the early 80's when I was working on the making of the Silverwoods course in TL (we called it Siberia) they flew at tree top levels all the time. You did not hear them until they were right on top of you. It did get your heart pumping LOL so nothing they haven't done in the past They went over our house all the time. It was sort of interesting. They were those delta wing whatevers. The idiot dog thought he could catch them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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