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I know...I know.....its hard to believe....she is suppose to hear FACTS and RULE on things regarding our constitution.... not make false claims or her personal opinions 

Fact Check: Sotomayor Claims 100,000 Children ‘in Serious Condition,’ on ‘Ventilators’

Sonia Sotomayor (Associated Press)
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CLAIM: U.S. Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor: “We have over 100,000 children, which we’ve never had before, in serious condition, many on ventilators,” from coronavirus.

VERDICT: FALSE. There are about 4,000 children in hospital from coronavirus.

Justice Sotomayor made several factually false statements during oral arguments Friday at the Supreme Court, as the justices considered challenges to President Joe Biden’s vaccine mandates, including a mandate on large private employers.

 

One of the more bizarre statements Sotomayor made was the claim that there are 100,000 children currently hospitalized in the United States due to coronavirus, with “many” using ventilators to breathe.

 

While there are a record number of children in hospital due to the ongoing coronavirus surge, the number is far smaller than what Sotomayor suggested — just over 4,000, as of Wednesday.

The Washington Post reported on Friday:

More than 4,000 children were hospitalized with covid-19 across the nation Wednesday, Washington Post figures show, marking a new high that towers above previous peaks set during the summer when the delta variant was driving up infections.

The tally, which includes confirmed as well as suspected pediatric covid-19 patients, reflects a steep rise in infections in that group. Less than two weeks ago, on Christmas, fewer than 2,000 children were in hospitals with covid.

The seven-day average of pediatric hospitalizations was slightly lower at 3,713. Hospitalizations of adults are also rising rapidly.

Fox News reported that most of the cases involving children who have been hospitalized are “incidental.” The CDC reports that mechanically-assisted ventilation is generally required in fewer than 20% of cases among patients admitted to hospital.

As Breitbart News reported in another fact check, Sotomayor also falsely claimed that the omicron variant, the dominant strain in the current surge, is more “deadly” than the delta variant that was more common in the summer and the fall of 2021.

Sotomayor did not appear in the courtroom for the oral arguments, but participated remotely, from her chambers.

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“750 million” Americans just got Covid...more illegals crossed than I thought...:duh:


 

Get The Courts Out Of Science

BY TYLER DURDEN
SATURDAY, JAN 08, 2022 - 12:30 PM

Authored by Jeffrey Tucker via The Brownstone Institute,

Yesterday morning I listened to the oral arguments in the case of the Biden administration’s vaccine mandates as enforced by OSHA. It was a demoralizing experience.

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I heard some crazy things, such as a claim that “750 million” Americans just got Covid yesterday, and that 100,000 kids with Covid are in the hospital, many on ventilators. The correct number is 3,300 with positive tests, but not necessarily suffering from Covid. I further heard strong claims that the vaccines block disease spread, despite every bit of evidence to the contrary.  

It was my first time hearing oral arguments in the Supreme Court. I might have thought that facts on the ground would actually matter to people who are holding the fate of human liberty in their hands. I might have thought that they would be getting their information from somewhere other than their political intuition, mixed with wildly inaccurate claims from bloggers and media pundits. 

I was wrong. And that is deeply alarming. Or maybe it is a wake up call to us all. We have learned today that these people are no smarter than our neighbors, no more qualified to address complicated questions than our friends, and arguably far less informed than the Twittersphere about basic issues of Covid and public health. 

The backdrop of today’s arguments is that 74% of Americans of all ages have had at least one shot. Meanwhile, case numbers are up 500% in many places, and 721,000 new cases have been logged throughout the country, and that’s obviously a large underestimate because it does not count at-home tests which are selling out in stores around the country. 

The extremely obvious point – the most basic observation one can make about this data – is that the vaccinations are not controlling the spread. This has been granted already by the CDC and every other authority. 

No matter what people say in retrospect, I seriously doubt that anyone would have predicted a future in which the pandemic highs would be reached following mass vaccination. It’s not only true in the US but also all over the world. However much they help with mitigating severe outcomes of the disease, at least for a time, they have not been successful in stopping the spread of the virus. They will not end the pandemic. 

And yet, so far as I can understand this, that is the whole point of the vaccine mandate. It is to protect workers from getting Covid. There is no zero evidence that this is possible with mass mandates in the workforce. People can get and are getting Covid anywhere and everywhere, among which surely means the workplace too. The vaccine is not stopping that. What will bring this pandemic to an end will not be the vaccines but the adaptation of human immune systems, exposed and then developing resilience. 

Apparently there was not one mention of natural immunity during the oral arguments, which is truly astounding. From what I could hear, there was a strangely truncated environment in which no one was willing to say certain obvious truths, almost as if a pre-set orthodoxy had been defined at the outset. There were certain givens that simply were not questioned; namely that this is a disease without precedent, that the state can stop it, that vaccines are the best ticket we have, that the unvaccinated have absolutely no good reason to remain that way. 

To be sure, the oral arguments are not what decides a case. The briefs filed for the court are much better on the side of opposing the mandates, while the briefs for the mandates are filled with untruths that are easily exploded. In the end, it is very likely that the mandate will be struck down in a 6 to 3 vote. I’m glad for that. We should be relieved. 

However, we need to do some serious thinking about what is going on here.

We are talking about a mandate that profoundly affects the health and well-being of millions of people.

The question of whether someone should take the vaccine is bound up with extremely complex empirical questions, and opinions run in every direction, from those who think it is the greatest gift of modern science to those who think the vaccines themselves are not only dangerous but also unleashing ever more variants. These are matters of science and should be subject to debate, with the final choices made by individuals. 

What absolutely cannot happen in any free, civilized, and stable country is to have such fundamental questions of liberty and bodily autonomy adjudicated by a panel of lawyers who have limited curiosity in the science, a lack of knowledge of facts on the ground that are available to anyone who cares, and who get their basic facts about a pandemic from TV talk shows and a prevailing media ethos that has no basis in reality. 

How did we end up here?

We need the answers to this question. Certain issues should be absolutely off limits to the courts. Those issues pertain to fundamental questions concerning science and its application to human health. Of all things that need to be outside the realm of politics and the courts, it is these. The courts lack the competence. Even if the decision goes the right way, there is no real basis for feeling relieved and secure about our future. 

Liberty can win this one and lose the next one. It all depends on the court appointments. This is not how a social order can operate. We need a system in which foundational issues of health, science, and liberty are outside the scope of the court system. 

I wish I knew how to get there. We’ve been on a very long trajectory in which government exercises ever more control over our lives, inch by inch, for the better part of a century. We’ve come to the point where this control is a severe threat to our capacity to live free and dignified lives without being subject to the arbitrary whims of “experts” with power. 

The courts have been too acquiescent for too long. If we had a really functioning court system and a Constitution that it followed, the forced closures of March 2020 would have been struck down in hours and ruled out as incompatible with freedom itself. 

My highest hope is that the majority opinion here, if it goes the right way, will not be narrow and evasive, picking apart the mandate based on technicalities, but sweeping and fundamental. It should say in no uncertain terms that this mandate should never have been issued and that the court should never have to intervene in such matters in the future. 

Freedom requires at least the presumption that businesses (and all institutions) can operate without acting as proxies for the federal health police – pushing injections on their workers against their will – and that workers have the right to determine what medicines they will and will not take. 

The very existence of this case in the Supreme Court reveals that something is fundamentally broken about our presumptions about the relationship between the individual and the state. It must be fixed. It won’t finally be fixed by a court but rather a dramatic cultural change that embraces certain fundamental propositions about liberty itself. We’ve played too many games and taken too many risks for too long.

 Let us hope that this case awakens a culture and a world to a desperate need for dramatic reform. Human rights and public health are too important to be left in the hands of high courts. 

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On 1/8/2022 at 12:14 PM, lavender said:

These "for life" appointments have got to go. When you no longer have the capacity to verify facts it is time to retire. It is more frightening that she sits on the Supreme Court. 

From what I can tell, verifying facts is entirely optional no matter who does the talking.  Why should one group hold another group to a standard they themselves are noncompliant?

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15 hours ago, Illiterate said:

From what I can tell, verifying facts is entirely optional no matter who does the talking.  Why should one group hold another group to a standard they themselves are noncompliant?

The way I see it is that I verify facts to the best of my ability even when just posting on here so I have the right to expect my elected (or appointed) leaders to do the same. The American voter should have the same expectations. When I get too senile to do so I hope that Steve will delete my account or send me to a corner where I can babble to myself. The same should be done with those "superior" beings who are supposedly running the country. 

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21 hours ago, lavender said:

The way I see it is that I verify facts to the best of my ability even when just posting on here so I have the right to expect my elected (or appointed) leaders to do the same. The American voter should have the same expectations. When I get too senile to do so I hope that Steve will delete my account or send me to a corner where I can babble to myself. The same should be done with those "superior" beings who are supposedly running the country. 

We'll hang out in the washed up corner and drink beer all day ---------when the time comes. Right now we have more work to do. The non-Liberals unrelenting attacks on Liberals has just started to get some traction. Carry on the crusade to the very end then we all can relax and enjoy our freedoms again.

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On 1/11/2022 at 8:59 AM, fedup said:

We'll hang out in the washed up corner and drink beer all day ---------when the time comes. Right now we have more work to do. The non-Liberals unrelenting attacks on Liberals has just started to get some traction. Carry on the crusade to the very end then we all can relax and enjoy our freedoms again.

Not to sure I want to live in  world where folks are so neatly divided.  Us vs Them.  Go Us!

Most people I know pretty much have a sliding-scale view on the various issues.  Sometimes a little more left, sometimes little more right withe a general lean left or right.

I dont want our leaders to come the goons on the far right anymore than from the loons on the far left.

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On 1/13/2022 at 7:03 AM, Illiterate said:

Not to sure I want to live in  world where folks are so neatly divided.  Us vs Them.  Go Us!

Most people I know pretty much have a sliding-scale view on the various issues.  Sometimes a little more left, sometimes little more right withe a general lean left or right.

I dont want our leaders to come the goons on the far right anymore than from the loons on the far left.

I know your smart enough to understand that you are ALREADY living in a devided country and it's not NEATLY devided.

Dreaming about what you want and pretending that everyone will play fair is a waste of your time. Your efforts would be better placed in the battle to remove the bad to make room for the good.

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8 hours ago, fedup said:

I know your smart enough to understand that you are ALREADY living in a devided country and it's not NEATLY devided.

Dreaming about what you want and pretending that everyone will play fair is a waste of your time. Your efforts would be better placed in the battle to remove the bad to make room for the good.

I would agree on getting on getting rid of the bad.  However, the bad includes a lot of far right conservatives.  You are the one that pits liberals and non-liberals against in your fantasy crusade

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13 hours ago, Illiterate said:

I would agree on getting on getting rid of the bad.  However, the bad includes a lot of far right conservatives.  You are the one that pits liberals and non-liberals against in your fantasy crusade

I pit Americans against non-Americans in an attempt to get Americans off their butts and start fighting to retain their freedoms. Too many citizens have become lazy while they have enjoyed the freedoms this country gained by hard fights and sacrifices. Too many citizens believe that there is a government backed party that is fighting for them so they vote for that party and go home believing they have done their duty.

We have no government backed/supported party that puts America first. 

It's in your face every day and you and many others just pretend that your vote is gonna rid this country of the evil within. You know your vote is not doing what you wanted and has not done what you want.

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13 hours ago, Illiterate said:

I would agree on getting on getting rid of the bad.  However, the bad includes a lot of far right conservatives.  You are the one that pits liberals and non-liberals against in your fantasy crusade

And by the way can we have a decent conversation without you pretending I am a Conservative Republican.

I know it's hard for some of you to understand that there is millions of fedup's in this country that are not affiliated with any government run party. 

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I like how The Biden Administration has done more to help kill Americans off who get this virus. The hoarding of drugs that work, shove everyone together (nursing home deaths) flooding the country with new (untested) illegal voters.....yes wake up America they feel the illegals should have the right to vote for them! Are we actually seeing what's going on in front of our face or too glued to our phones to realize. They own stock in the pharmaceutical companies they have making the vaccine, and treatments, tests feeling free to spend our tax dollars getting richer! While we struggle to get by, they raise minimum wage, patting themselves on the back for the great service they've done for the working poor.......then inflation kills everyone but them! The working poor and middle class have lost more than they've gained will all the help they've given us.

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1 hour ago, Gold Brick said:

I like how The Biden Administration has done more to help kill Americans off who get this virus. The hoarding of drugs that work, shove everyone together (nursing home deaths) flooding the country with new (untested) illegal voters.....yes wake up America they feel the illegals should have the right to vote for them! Are we actually seeing what's going on in front of our face or too glued to our phones to realize. They own stock in the pharmaceutical companies they have making the vaccine, and treatments, tests feeling free to spend our tax dollars getting richer! While we struggle to get by, they raise minimum wage, patting themselves on the back for the great service they've done for the working poor.......then inflation kills everyone but them! The working poor and middle class have lost more than they've gained will all the help they've given us.

Excellent post

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