Petee Posted October 9, 2025 Posted October 9, 2025 On 10/2/2025 at 11:35 AM, Keyser Soze said: There’s currently no way for municipalities to disincorporate. But Pa. law allows a municipality to terminate itself in its current form by merging or consolidating with another municipality or municipalities. So the only way to change DuBois is to consolidate with a neighboring municipality. You cannot have a ballot question to change back to the previous Sandy/DuBois governments. Brady Township?
Petee Posted October 9, 2025 Posted October 9, 2025 On 10/2/2025 at 12:28 PM, Keyser Soze said: Most of the council thought that. The consolidation law only has provisions to consolidate. Sen Dush wants to add a provision (Bill 764) to allow a pause if wrong doing is suspected in future consolidations. He received some suggestions from local officials to reword a few sentences in his proposal. It was still in committee as of today. We did do a "Pause the Consolidation" Petition and it was dropped. None of the voices of reason were listened to. You can always do it, but you can't undo it! It was over 1200 signatures and I could have gotten more!
Polo Posted October 9, 2025 Posted October 9, 2025 Very foolish in my opinion. There are more important things to spend $15,000 on. It's nice to commemorate special dates but this doesn't qualify. Why not save the extra $ towards next year's Community Days? It was given for that in the first place.
Constitutionalist Posted October 9, 2025 Author Posted October 9, 2025 2 hours ago, Petee said: Brady Township? Be careful what you wish for.. there has already been back door discussions about other areas. Take a look at all the land the city owns in union township. It may have lost some traction with herm being arrested. But I think I his plan was to try to expand Dubois to all the neighboring townships
Keyser Soze Posted October 10, 2025 Posted October 10, 2025 11 hours ago, Petee said: We did do a "Pause the Consolidation" Petition and it was dropped. None of the voices of reason were listened to. You can always do it, but you can't undo it! It was over 1200 signatures and I could have gotten more! If Dush’s bill would have been law before the consolidation vote, then it could had been paused once there was a valid reason to ask for one.
Petee Posted October 10, 2025 Posted October 10, 2025 On 9/25/2025 at 11:40 PM, Constitutionalist said: I said this way back at primary time.. starting new means NEW.. new everyone I wonder if there would be a difference if everyone elected would be from Sandy Township? Obviously new isn't possible, but Sandy ran extremely well while the city was sinking. Might it be a matter of skills and attitude?
Keyser Soze Posted October 10, 2025 Posted October 10, 2025 7 hours ago, Petee said: I wonder if there would be a difference if everyone elected would be from Sandy Township? Obviously new isn't possible, but Sandy ran extremely well while the city was sinking. Might it be a matter of skills and attitude? At some point around 2012 the city council became more interested in awarding themselves pensions, cadillac healthcare benefits with no deductibles and perks.They were alright having cash sitting around the city building with no way of keeping track of it.The city had a cash cow with their ability to raise Sandy's sewer rates to cover any deficit that might occur. The supervisors at that time (and before) maintained a attitude of not enriching themselves. Whenever someone new joined the board the policy of just doing what is best for the township carried over to the new board.
Constitutionalist Posted October 10, 2025 Author Posted October 10, 2025 Just remember folks, you want a fresh new start.. elect fresh new faces. New city new start, can’t be done with old faces. disgruntled and BillyC 1 1
Petee Posted October 11, 2025 Posted October 11, 2025 10 hours ago, Constitutionalist said: Just remember folks, you want a fresh new start.. elect fresh new faces. New city new start, can’t be done with old faces. How could that be done when you can probably only vote for announced candidates?
Ignatius Posted October 13, 2025 Posted October 13, 2025 Meet the new boss, same as the old boss....... Seadog and Basset3 2
Constitutionalist Posted October 26, 2025 Author Posted October 26, 2025 Anyone read the latest article about the city trying to get a budget ready? wanting to do a new garbage contract.. oh and this is a good one.. talking about charging people for street lights, fire hydrants, and storm water run off.. I just can’t anymore… I really think it’s about time to say goodbye to this place…
Constitutionalist Posted October 26, 2025 Author Posted October 26, 2025 Wanting to raise revenue with taxes to generate 500k a year additional for new projects
Basset3 Posted October 26, 2025 Posted October 26, 2025 1 hour ago, Constitutionalist said: Anyone read the latest article about the city trying to get a budget ready? wanting to do a new garbage contract.. oh and this is a good one.. talking about charging people for street lights, fire hydrants, and storm water run off.. I just can’t anymore… I really think it’s about time to say goodbye to this place… I understand your frustration.
Constitutionalist Posted October 26, 2025 Author Posted October 26, 2025 How on earth can anyone even think about charging people that have a street light or fire hydrant in their property.. I want to know who brought that up. I’m glad the article at least says it didn’t gain any traction. But my lord what’s next?
Petee Posted October 26, 2025 Posted October 26, 2025 Tax money to pay for favorite projects..................remind you of anyone else? We don't need more projects, we need quality and maintenance on the ones we already have like Sandy Township always did. Stuff needs repaired, not polished.
Keyser Soze Posted October 28, 2025 Posted October 28, 2025 On 10/26/2025 at 1:33 PM, Constitutionalist said: How on earth can anyone even think about charging people that have a street light or fire hydrant in their property.. I want to know who brought that up. I’m glad the article at least says it didn’t gain any traction. But my lord what’s next? This is common way in Pennsylvania for townships and cities to pay for lighting and hydrants while giving outlying property owners who don’t benefit from these services a lower tax rate. Let’s say you live where you will never get a hydrant or streetlights then your taxes would be less.
Ignatius Posted October 28, 2025 Posted October 28, 2025 12 hours ago, Keyser Soze said: This is common way in Pennsylvania for townships and cities to pay for lighting and hydrants while giving outlying property owners who don’t benefit from these services a lower tax rate. Let’s say you live where you will never get a hydrant or streetlights then your taxes would be less. Agree, but the part that is a bit disconcerting is the language "unspecified project". Now, that might be a liberal interpretation by whoever (reporter) was covering the meeting, or maybe truthful! We don't need any more unsightly tubs in this town.
Constitutionalist Posted October 28, 2025 Author Posted October 28, 2025 Whoever is writing these articles on meet the candidates is horrible.. the little 3 sentence articles really don’t tell us anything at all about the candidates..
Petee Posted October 28, 2025 Posted October 28, 2025 It's like giving a bunch of hooligan children the deed to your property. They may do right because some of them have good hearts and have proven it, and then there are others who have caused problems for the other kids and yourself. You cannot feel secure again, always watching over your shoulder to see if you will have a home. Why can't they realize that to temporarily leave things as they were, then slowly and succinctly set out goals to be dealt with. Rushing into things like a monument (is this like the gravestone in front of the United Way that was originally plunked on Brady Street) gives a really bad impression. I would have thought things like defining areas of the "City" of DuBois would have taken extreme precedence so people in those areas will possibly know what is coming. How will they be different as to their past history? Will they get a fair shake since they unwillingly gave up their home area. I'll bet NONE of them wanted to be a part of a CITY. Even in the Bible, Abraham was warned not to let Lot go into a city to live. He was specifically warned that they are not good places. If you want a vacation or some peace, do you go into town and relax? It appears that they are just jumping from money project to money project, and whether that's true or not, it upsets the citizens with the most to lose. How about backing up and dealing with the hearts and psychology of the area first, then slowly instituting well explained and approved projects that include the best agreed on interests of EVERYONE, not just those who are like new millionaires with no instinct for others, except to use their money for your pet projects. This stems from a long history of deserved distrust between the two entities. One went broke while the other flourished. Going ahead at this speed with all of the occurring disagreements will eventually take everyone down. Ignatius 1
Constitutionalist Posted October 28, 2025 Author Posted October 28, 2025 Elected officials are supposed to be the voices of those that elected them.. however anytime you go to a meeting and voice a concern, they do what they want anyway. How many elected officials vote the way the constituents want? BillyC 1
Constitutionalist Posted October 28, 2025 Author Posted October 28, 2025 How many citizens even knew there was a motion to build a new monument? Seems no one knew bout it until it was voted on.. why are officials just make decisions for the people without the people knowing about? Polo 1
Polo Posted October 29, 2025 Posted October 29, 2025 21 hours ago, Constitutionalist said: Whoever is writing these articles on meet the candidates is horrible.. the little 3 sentence articles really don’t tell us anything at all about the candidates.. I agree. They need to go into detail.
L8RG8R Posted November 3, 2025 Posted November 3, 2025 On 10/28/2025 at 2:32 PM, Constitutionalist said: How many citizens even knew there was a motion to build a new monument? Seems no one knew bout it until it was voted on.. why are officials just make decisions for the people without the people knowing about? Contact Jen Jackson, she's big on transparency. Polo 1
Constitutionalist Posted November 3, 2025 Author Posted November 3, 2025 1 hour ago, L8RG8R said: Contact Jen Jackson, she's big on transparency. Oh yeah she’s huge on it
Petee Posted November 3, 2025 Posted November 3, 2025 11 minutes ago, Constitutionalist said: Oh yeah she’s huge on it It's all been bait, switch and then hide it!
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