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4 minutes ago, NikonSniper said:
The article talking about silica, alumina and iron oxide...
Note it then moves on to the advantages versus disadvantages. It most certainly is advantageous to the producers of fly ash, just like using sewage sludge on fields is advantageous for some...
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5 minutes ago, NikonSniper said:
Yes, it's a means for companies to get rid of their coal by-product, but is it beneficial to consumers if it doesn't last as long as cement?
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1 hour ago, NikonSniper said:
Head to any of the coal burning power plants around the area and look at the fly ash "mountains" built around them. Fly ash has been used in cement, cement block, flow fill, and various other things for many years.
As far as the radioactivity in fly ash. You have been exposed to more radiation to various things in your home and things you eat on a daily basis. Have stone or marble counter tops or tile in your home? Guess what your're living with a radioactive source everyday.....
I didn't post a comment about fly ash being used in building material to speak of radioactivity. I posted it to ponder if fly ash used as a substitute for cement makes concrete less durable.
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7 minutes ago, landfillguy said:
Well, I think that was you discussing the prions
, I don't know much about that.
The only thing I have ever seen set off the Geiger counter is waste from a chemo patient, and we once had a driver who set off the alarm every time he came in one day. When that happens, they have to drop their can and DHEC comes and scans it by hand. That's how we've pinpointed one diaper in a 20 ton load. Anyway, they never got a hit on that particular driver's can. Out of curiosity, they waved the wand over the driver, and he set it off. Turns out his uniforms had been washed with some of the clothing from a nursing home and was tripping the alarm, that's how sensitive they are
No, I wasn't the person who brought up prions. There were 2 other people talking about it before I made a comment.
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Just now, landfillguy said:
That gets a little out of my realm, but there are definitely some questions there
Well, you brought up what sets off the Geiger counter. I also remember people discussing folded prions in the old landfill thread.
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18 minutes ago, landfillguy said:
Ok, I misunderstood. We have Geiger counters on our scales. Fly ash won't set them off, but one diaper from a chemo patient in a 20 ton load of trash will
And we allow biosolids to be used as fertilizer.
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1 minute ago, landfillguy said:
I won't argue that there are contaminants, but I would argue that the new way of disposing of it is no more effective than what was done before. There are way more radioactive contaminants in your cell phone
I wasn't speaking of putting fly ash in a landfill. I was speaking of using it in construction products.
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Radioactive contaminants found in coal ash
https://phys.org/news/2015-09-radioactive-contaminants-coal-ash.html
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3 minutes ago, fedup said:
I think they are finding use for it. It's not so much of a waste product anymore.
It seems many things that are expensive to dispose of as waste suddenly find new homes. But how much testing is done before hand to determine the long term implications? I challenge that the new homes usually comes from well funded lobbying.
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14 hours ago, fedup said:
It would cost to much to solidify all the sludge with flyash. But capping a cell with it would be worth the cost in the long run.
The big problem---- flyash used to be a waste product. Now it has become a useful product.
Has it only become useful because the producers of fly ash now don't have to worry about what to do with it?
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16 minutes ago, michael880 said:
I worked at ups for Christmas and recall them shutting the line down and all deliveries pulled over because of a safety issue. We sat there eating our lunches till the dispute was settled.
He's saying you can't shut a landfill down for any length of time because it could turn into a public health disaster.
They don't have a union, so forming one now wouldn't help the workers with what happened in February.
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5 hours ago, landfillguy said:
I plead with the employees to make a stand over this. I know some of you guys are reading this thread, and the opportunity is slipping away. I'm just some guy on the internet, what I say goes only so far, and I can't say too much for fear of my job. You guys were there, you know what happened. This is not right. Decisions were made that led directly to that disaster, and even if Mr. Pierce's family gets a settlement for millions of dollars, where does that leave the rest of us? This isn't a local issue, this is a nationwide issue, and you guys are in the spotlight for a brief time. You guys could make some noise that would affect change for all of the rest of us. I understand why you don't speak up, I have mouths to feed, too, but what are you defending? Just Google "landfill slide". It's just a matter of time...
You are right. There needs to be noise from the employees.
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5 minutes ago, landfillguy said:
I think this is a national politics issue. Any decision made in PA would affect the entire industry, so just pay up and move on
So noted, but I'm describing PA politics and what we're up against. We have the past AG sentenced to jail, and people in charge who ignored years of child abuse in several high profile cases. It doesn't get much worse than that, but the citizenry doesn't ever fight much against it all.
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On 8/22/2017 at 11:10 AM, landfillguy said:
Ok, so define that procedure? If I wanted to floor in an entire cell with sludge, there is nothing but common sense stopping me from doing that. What percentage of sludge is too much to maintain a stable working face? How many tons of trash have to be available to mix with X amount of sludge? What do you do when it's raining and the sludge coming in doubles? What do you do when you are sliver filling an outside slope, where you can't put sludge?
The simple answer to all of those questions is to set a limit on how much you can take, but when a government office makes a vague statement about "improper handling" after a fatality, then there is nothing these companies will change. They can just point at Greentree and say "They handled it wrong, won't happen to us".
I'm just so disgusted by all of this, I thought it may bring about change, but it looks like it won't happen
You are catching on to PA politics. It's a horror which the citizens of the state never seem to have the will to change.
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1 hour ago, fedup said:
Here is the GAME people.
Your taxes are paying for OSHA. They are supposed to keep this from happening.
It happened under their watch. At your expense.
If your government agency would have come down hard, they would set a precedent that they would have to follow from now on.
Pay attention Steel to my next words.
The R side of the TPD controls big business. They will protect their voting base. They know who pays for their side of the joke that runs this country.
Fact coming up----- hang on---
This deal has been turned over to the lawers (sorry legal), there will be a monetary judgement handed out in silence. No precedent to be seen by the public. No rules to be followed in the future.
Bunches of money will be made before to next death.
The voting public has no idea about these games. They vote for more government rules thinking they are solving possible problems
The facts are that Congress controls OSHA fines and regulations. It doesn't matter if they are Rs or Ds.
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According to the report, House GOP Spokesman Stephen Miskin said the legislature has not voted on any major House bills after an election in a decade.
If HB 849 is not passed, it will have to be reintroduced when the next session starts in January ( You know the House could set a president and vote on bill.)
Why haven't they passed any bill after an election in a decade? Who do these people represent? Call and email them ASAP and demand they stop posing for pictures long enough to vote on this bill.
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'Each time I was diagnosed, I was prescribed 10 days of Doxycycline, the antibiotic that kills Lyme. Each time it did the trick.'
If it's easily curable why did the CDC make a vaccine?
It isn't "easily curable". Trust me.
The spirochetes can and will cross the Blood-Brain Barrier. When that happens, not many antibiotics can reach them. Even if you take ones that do, they have a hard time killing them all.
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People need to help save the bees, but, at the same time, they need to start fighting back against corporate owned America.
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Did you read that crock of BS put out by the government?
Your own government is killing them by allowing the massive use of insecticides and herbicides, which benefits certain industries. Here is but one example:
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My guess best is there are more than 13 starving human beings in Jefferson County.
Doubtful there are human beings being kept locked away from even water in Jefferson County.
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Posted
DEP Newsroom
COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASEDept. of Environmental Protection
Commonwealth News Bureau
Room 308, Main Capitol Building
Harrisburg PA., 17120
On February 8, 2017, a slope failure occurred at the Greentree Landfill causing an estimated 15.5 acres of solid waste to shift and an estimated five acres of solid waste to slide off the lined disposal area. A landfill employee was trapped in the slide and died.
In addition to paying $600,000 for violations of the Solid Waste Management Act occurring before and after the slide, Advanced Disposal is required to submit a written “Root Cause” Report to the DEP on or before December 31, 2017, detailing Advanced Disposal’s investigation and conclusion regarding the cause of the slope failure. Advanced Disposal has also agreed to operational changes that will improve safety, including:
• Limit municipal sewage sludge and approved non-hazardous waste with flowable characteristics to 10% of the monthly scaled tonnage with a maximum of 15% of the total scaled tonnage on any one day until the slide has been remediated
• Limit municipal sewage sludge and approved non-hazardous waste with flowable characteristics to 15% of the monthly scaled tonnage with a maximum of 20% of the total scaled tonnage on any one day for three years after the slide has been remediated
• Remove and dispose of all the waste outside the lined area of the landfill by March 31, 2018, according to a plan approved by the Department
• Improve its Odor Control Plan
• Employ an individual or individuals to serve as the primary engineering and environmental compliance contact for the landfill
The Agreement provides additional stipulated penalties if Advanced Disposal fails to comply with its obligations in a timely manner.