2 minutes ago, Trish said:

Do you think the hospital closes for holidays?

 No. But I can assure you none of the office staff is there. 

9 hours ago, blueangel said:

Of course they don't. I've worked as a CNA and LPN, when you work in a nursing home or a hospital you know that they operate 24/7. That means they have to have staff there 24/7. Not only doctors and nurses, they have to have dietary, lab, cleaning, security, radiology, etc. It's not just a 9-5 job. I'm extremely thankful to each and everyone of them. 

 

I realize that part. But they also have tons of office staff that work 9-5

If you wonder why penn highlands is short staffed maybe start with they don’t even get Christmas off.  If they want to take it off they have to use their PTO. 

I'll believe it when I see it. can we get an ordinance passed where old satellite dishes have to be removed as well?> 

On 11/25/2021 at 8:29 PM, alexandria said:

And there it is..YB works in Big Pharma..that explains it all

You have no idea where I work. 

On 11/26/2021 at 8:23 AM, fedup said:

2%

Way way less die from the jab but you are terrified of that. 

12 hours ago, fedup said:

people are dying from the shot----FACT

Healthcare workers know more about these shots than most other people.

Who in the hell does the government think it is to tell people working in the health industry what they should do concerning medicine?

 

And NOW IS THE TIME to take a stand. How much longer should free Americans listen to proven liars?

Many many more people are dying from covid.  People are dying from car wrecks.  Are you refusing to drive? Of course not.   See how silly that sounds. 

You all are pretty confused by rare events vs millions of people dead from covid.  
 

I’ve talked to many doctors. I work in the pharma field.  I’ve done my own research.  
 

hospital staff is not missing time for vaccine side effects.  That’s frankly laughable. They are missing time from having covid. 

3 hours ago, Titan said:

And you be prepared to face the consequences of your actions.  

Let it be.

I am. I’m not out here complaining about doing my job. 

45 minutes ago, Titan said:

And you be prepared to face the consequences of your actions.  

Let it be.

I am. I’m not out here complaining about doing my job. 

I’m not. You can do whatever you want. Just be prepared to face the consequences of those actions. 

You haven't answered any of my questions? Did you quit driving your car? 

You are comparing today’s technology to that of 200 years ago?

Who cares how long it took? My post is not irrelevant.  You just keep inventing reasons to be scared 

Just now, fedup said:

UPDATED:

APR 1, 2019

ORIGINAL:

SEP 5, 2017

7 of the Most Outrageous Medical Treatments in History

Why were parents giving their children heroin in the 1880s?

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It’s hard to keep up with the treatment recommendations coming out of the medical community. One day something is good for you, and the next day it’s deadly and should be avoided. Addictive drugs like heroin were given to kids to cure coughs, electric shock therapy has been a long used treatment for impotence, and “miracle” diet pills were handed out like candy. Below are seven of the most shocking treatments recommended by doctors.

1. Snake Oil—Salesmen and Doctors

 

Collection of elixirs. (Credit: Efrain Padro/Alamy Stock Photo)

While today a “snake oil salesman” is someone who knowingly sells fraudulent goods, the use of snake oil has real, medicinal routes. Extracted from the oil of Chinese water snakes, it likely arrived in the United States in the 1800s, with the influx of Chinese workers toiling on the Transcontinental Railroad. Rich in omega-3 acids, it was used to reduce inflammation and treat arthritis and bursitis, and was rubbed on the workers’ joints after a long day of working on the railroad.Enter Clark Stanley, “The Rattlesnake King.” Originally a cowboy, Stanley claimed to have studied with a Hopi medicine man who turned him on to the healing powers of snake oil. He took this new found “knowledge” on the road, performing a show-stopping act at the Chicago World’s Fair in 1893, where he reached into a bag, grabbed a rattlesnake, cut it open, and squeezed it. He labeled the extract snake oil, even though the FDA later confirmed that his products didn’t contain any kind of snake oil, rattlesnake or otherwise. That didn’t stop other unscrupulous doctors and fraudulent salesmen, who also started traveling the American West, peddling bottles of fake snake oil, giving the truly beneficial medical treatment a bad name.

2. Cocaine—The Wonder Drug

 

Advertisement for Cocaine Toothache Drops,1890. Courtesy National Library of Medicine. (Credit: Smith Collection/Getty Images).

Around the mid 1880s, scientists were able to isolate the active ingredient of the coca leaf, Erythroxylon coca (later known as cocaine). Pharmaceutical companies loved this new, fast-acting and relatively-inexpensive stimulant.

In 1884, an Austrian ophthalmologist, Carl Koller, discovered that a few drops of cocaine solution put on a patient’s cornea acted as a topical anesthetic. It made the eye immobile and de-sensitized to pain, and caused less bleeding at the site of incision—making eye surgery much less risky. News of this discovery spread, and soon cocaine was being used in both eye and sinus surgeries. Marketed as a treatment for toothaches, depression, sinusitis, lethargy, alcoholism, and impotence, cocaine was soon being sold as a tonic, lozenge, powder and even used in cigarettes. It even appeared in Sears Roebuck catalogues. Popular home remedies, such as Allen’s Cocaine Tablets, could be purchased for just 50 cents a box and offered relief for everything from hay fever, catarrh, throat troubles, nervousness, headaches, and sleeplessness. In reality, the side effects of cocaine actually caused many of the ailments it claimed to cure—causing lack of sleep, eating problems, depression, and even hallucinations.

You didn’t need a doctor’s prescription to purchase it. Some states sold cocaine at bars, and it was, famously, one of the key ingredients in the soon-to-be ubiquitous Coca-Cola soft drink. By 1902, there were an estimated 200,000 cocaine addicts in the U.S. alone. In 1914, the Harrison Narcotic Act outlawed the production, importation, and distribution of cocaine.

3. Vibrators—Cure Your Hysteria

 

Handheld electric vibrator, 1909. (Credit: SSPL/Getty Images)

We have 19th-century doctors to thank for the introduction of the vibrator, which was first advertised as a cure for a catch-all, female “disease” known as hysteria. Hysteria was believed to cause any number of maladies, including anxiety, irritability, sexual desire, insomnia, faintness, and a bloated stomach—so almost every woman showed some symptoms. The condition traced its roots back to ancient medical theories about “wandering wombs,” where a displaced (and discontented) uterus caused female ill health.

The treatment? A “pelvic massage” that would induce “hysterical paroxysm”—commonly known as an orgasm. This job lay with Victorian doctors who manually massaged women. In an effort to spare the doctors this work, one ingenious practitioner named Dr. Joseph Mortimer Granville created a steam-powered, “electromechanical medical instrument.” Nicknamed the “Manipulator,” the device allowed women to give themselves home massages, allowing them to cure their “wandering wombs.”

READ MORE: The ‘Father of Modern Gynecology’ Performed Shocking Experiments on Enslaved Women

4. Fen-Phen—A Miracle Pill for Weight Loss

 

Bottles of Phentermine and Fenfluramine, commonly known as Phen-Fen. (Credit: Yvonne Hemsey/Getty Images)

Today’s weight-loss industry is an estimated $60 billion business, a large portion of which is spent on diet pills. And while the first fat-busting pills went on the market in the late 1880s, no other pills have had quite the speedy rise and fall as Fen-Phen did in the 1990s.Originally released into the market as two separate drugs—the appetite suppressant Fenfluramine and the amphetamine Phentermine—they were marketed as short-term diet aids, but proved largely ineffective on their own. In the late 1970s, however, the two products were combined by Dr. Michael Weintraub to create what became known as Fen-Phen. Weintraub conducted a single study with 121 patients over the course of four years. The patients, two-thirds of which were women, lost an average of 30 pounds with seemingly no side effects—but Weintraub’s study didn’t monitor the patients’ hearts. The new miracle drug was first introduced into the market in 1992, and people could not get enough of it. Some doctors, looking for a quick way to make cash, operated “fen-phen mills,” where desperate patients looking to shed excess weight would pay anything for the pills. Soon, some 6 million Americans were using it.

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In April 1996, after a contentious debate, the FDA agreed to approve the drug, pending a one-year trial. Almost immediately, reports of grave side effects started pouring in. That July, the Mayo Clinic said that 24 women taking fen-phen had developed serious heart valve abnormalities. Hundreds of more cases were reported, and by September 1997 the FDA had officially pulled fen-phen. In 1999, the American Home Products Corporation (the producers of fen-phen) agreed to pay a $3.75 billion settlement to those injured by taking the drug. More than 50,000 liability lawsuits were filed in the years following its withdrawal from the market, and patients are still able to file injury claims.

5. Heroin—The Cure for a Cough

 

Pharmaceutical advertisement from a 1900 magazine, promoting the use of heroin for a cough. (Credit: Bettmann/Getty Images)

How do you cure one drug epidemic? Create a new drug. That’s what happened in the late 1880s, when heroin was introduced as a safe and non-addictive substitute for morphine. Known as diamorphine, it was created by an English chemical researcher named C.R. Alder Wright in the 1870s, but it wasn’t until a chemist working for Bayer pharmaceuticals discovered Wright’s paper in 1895 that the drug came to market.

Finding it to be five times more effective—and supposedly less addictive—than morphine, Bayer began advertising a heroin-laced aspirin in 1898, which they marketed towards children suffering from sore throats, coughs, and cold. Some bottles depicted children eagerly reaching for the medicine, with moms giving their sick kids heroin on a spoon. Doctors started to have an inkling that heroin may not be as non-addictive as it seemed when patients began coming back for bottle after bottle. Despite the pushback from physicians and negative stories about heroin’s side effects pilling up, Bayer continued to market and produce their product until 1913. Eleven years later, the FDA banned heroin altogether.

READ MORE: Dr. John Kellogg Invented Cereal. Some of His Other Wellness Ideas Were Much Weirder

6. Lobotomies—Hacking Away Troubled Brains

 

Dr. Walter Freeman performing a lobotomy. (Credit: Bettmann/Getty Images)

Walter Freeman thought he’d found a way to alleviate the pain and distress of the mentally and emotionally ill. Instead, he created one of history’s most horrific medical treatments. Freeman developed his procedure, which became known as a prefrontal lobotomy, based on earlier research by a Portuguese neurologist. Early versions of Freeman’s “cure” involved drilling holes in the top of his patients’ skulls, and later evolved into hammering an ice pick-like instrument through their eye sockets, to sever the connections between the frontal lobes and the thalamus, which he believed to be the part of the brain that dealt with human emotion.Freeman soon teamed up with James Watts, and after practicing on cadavers, they performed their first procedure on a live patient in 1936, a woman who suffered from agitated depression and sleeplessness. It was deemed a success. But subsequent surgeries were not. Patients were often left in a vegetative state, experienced relapses, and regressed physically and emotionally. As many as 15 percent died. One of the most infamous victims was Rosemary Kennedy, the sister of future President John F. Kennedy, who was left incapacitated and spent the rest of her life needing full-time care.

Freeman was as much a showman as he was a doctor, traveling to 23 states to demonstrate his miracle cure. In all, he performed some 3,439 lobotomies—some on patients not yet in their teens. And despite the obvious risks and lack of concrete success rates, hospitals willingly let Freeman continue, perhaps because lobotomized patients were considered “easier” to deal with. Everything changed in 1967, when Freeman performed a lobotomy on one of his original patients, a housewife living in Berkeley, California. This time, he severed a blood vessel and Mortenson died of a brain hemorrhage—finally putting an end to Freeman’s haphazard brain hacking.

7. Shock Treatments—The Cure for Impotence

 

Electric belts featured in a Sears catalog, 1900.

The medical profession has had varying opinions on the causes, and possible cures, for impotence. The repressive Victorians honed in on a man’s “moral weakness” as the cause for genital dysfunction, and by the 19th century impotence was thought to be caused by either an excess of sex or masturbation, or too little of it. As surgeon Samuel W. Gross noted in his book, Practical Treatise on Impotence, Sterility, and Allied Disorders of the Male Sexual Organs, “masturbation, gonorrhea, sexual excesses, and constant excitement of the genital organs without gratification,” would lead to impotence.

Some doctors introduced “galvanic baths,” or bathtubs filled with electrodes, which were supposed to restore sexual desire in just six sessions. Others took an even more localized approach, where rods with currents running through them were placed inside the man’s urethra. The treatment would last for five to eight minutes and would be repeated once or twice a week. This was thought to be particularly helpful for those with significant atrophy to the genital area.

Where a buck can be made off an insecure customer, then quack doctors and unsavory businessmen are sure to follow. By the late 1800s ads were running for “electropathic belts” or “electric belts” aimed at “weak men.” They claimed to help cure kidney pains, sciatic nerve issues, backaches, headaches, and nervous exhaustion—but the underlying message was they could cure men’s sexual problems.

While today, impotence is seen as a blend of physical and mental issues, the belief that electric shock therapy is a useful cure for impotence still persists. Studies coming out of Haifa, Israel (2009) and San Francisco, California (2016) both claim there are merits to low-energy shock wave therapy to cure erectile dysfunction.

 

People will be including hrdrochloroquine and ivermectin and bleach someday on that list 

Your post is totally irrelevant.  70 years after the polio vaccine and Polio is nearly irradiated worldwide.  Is their some smallpox outbreak I'm unaware of? 

Different vaccines work differently.  Take the flu. It doesn't get rid of the flu. If you are vaccinated you are just much less likely to get the flu and if you do get the flu the symptoms are generally much more mild.  Then you have things like Polio and MMR which basically mean you aren't getting that disease.  

Furthermore, if you actually do some research you will see that MRNA vaccines have been in development for over a decade.  And if you don't want an MRNA vaccine, take one like J and J and their will be more coming out I'm sure. 

Question: if you get covid, will you take the new pills that have just come out? Because a) you have know idea what are in those and b) they have been developed much more quickly than the vaccines.  

Billions of people have taken the shot. The percent that have died, especially in this country is infinitesimal.  We are approaching 1 million people that have died from Covid.  Give me a break.   I've never seen people so scared of something that statistically is safe as can be.  You are more likely to die from driving your car, walking across the street, getting struck by lighting.  If you are scared just say you are scared, don't give us this my body my freedom argument. It's disingenuous at best. Like I said, the vast majority of these people have never refused a vaccine before, you put stuff in your body you have no idea what is in it all the time, and you are now making an argument for to be pro-choice on abortion.   

People die in car accidents. Did you quit driving your car? 

The government and we are talking about CMS here, not generally elected officials, has doctors and medical experts working for them and people that have worked in healthcare for their entire lives.  These healthcare workers have never been opposed to a vaccine in their lives. Why now? 

Everyone I know got the vaccine including now my two children under 11. I'm on my third dose.  I don't know anyone that had an adverse reaction.  Yes they do happen but they are rare.  Some people have adverse reactions to Penicillin. Are we all going to stop taking antibiotics?  

Nearly all the people telling you not to get vaccinated ARE VACCINATED. Trump is vaccinated.  

Point here is we need healthcare workers.  Now is not the time to take some personal stand.  The vaccination is safe. Get it and do your job.   We need you.  

33 minutes ago, fedup said:

A persons health should not be controlled by an elected government.

So you are pro choice when it comes to abortion?

You’re trying to change the subject anyway. Any employer is well within their right to require employees to be vaccinated and if the employees choose not to that is their right. But it is their choice not to comply and they face the consequences.  It’s not the hospital’s fault. Freedom of choice doesn’t mean you can do whatever you want.  

I hope none of these vaccine refusers ever plans to work in healthcare again.  Every health care provider is going to require it.
 I just started a job where I work from home and my new company requires the vaccine. It makes sense.  Getting covid will drastically drive up the cost of healthcare benefits they provide.   The people that won’t get vaccinated are the danger at this point.  

You conveniently left out the first sentence of that paragraph.  
 

Vaccination reduces the risk of delta variant infection and accelerates viral clearance. 

You are far less likely to transmit it if you are vaccinated vs unvaccinated. You are also far less likely to get it meaning you will be able to do your job and be able to show up.  

A lot of people need to learn that just because you are free to do or not do something does not mean you are free from the consequences of that choice. Fine don't get the vaccine but the consequence is you don't get to work at a healthcare facility whose job it is to heal and protect patient health. To work at Penn Highlands you are tested for all kinds of anti-bodies upon hire and if you are missing any, you have to get vaccinated for those.  Health care workers chose this field. They chose to help patients and do what is in the patients' best interest not what is in their own. Now during a pandemic they want to put themselves before the patients? The vaccine is clearly the best way to protect yourself and others from Covid.  Get the vaccine if you care about your patients. Healthcare workers from history are surely rolling in their graves at the cowards and selfish babies that now work in the healthcare field. Just down the road during the Polio outbreak millions of parents in Pittsburgh signed their children up and themselves to test the Polio vaccine to protect the rest of the world.  Where would we be if they had acted so cowardly? Get the vaccine and do your jobs. 

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