10 minutes ago, fedup said:

Money talks.

I really think that if what I've suspected all along is proven to be the root cause, something will be done. No doubt money talks, but this is a nationwide issue with tons of liability

25 minutes ago, Petee said:

The workers are spreading the truth but that's not what the final decision will be made on.  How about if the news sources start interviewing witnesses?  Think that will happen?

Already happening

23 minutes ago, fedup said:

  Kinda wish I was back there. I know 2 guys that works there. I could get the truth from those workers. That being said, I hate to say this, I am a Debbie Downer when it comes to the real truth coming out and heavy hitting against the company.

  You can bet the brooms have been out and the deals are being made as you read this.

  Guy knows this part. What happens here will affect the whole industry. The consumers will not handle the rate increases it will take to revamp what has been into what is needed. 

  The government and the industry heads are hard at work to maintain the Status Quo.

My hope is that what happens there affects the entire industry. How they resolve the issue that caused it in the first place will determine whether the average homeowner sees a rate increase or not. Make manufacturers dry it out more, and that cost goes to the manufacturer. Eliminate the waste stream completely, then you start missing your budget numbers...

Notice the words "brownish material" in the report. Remember that...

I know I can carry on with some foolishness, but if there is anyone that still questions my motives here, I never want to call out over my radio "The landfill is gone". If you knew a landfill, you could watch that video and tell what caused that collapse. It's a battle I've been fighting for years. I never want to call a wife and tell her "Daddy ain't coming home"

9 minutes ago, sapphire said:

That was chilling....

Very. I had goosebumps. You guys can't imagine what a massive area that was

Oh my god...

I watched that with my face in my hand. That is terrifying, such a massive area. And hearing the guys talking on the radio. That makes it so real, so easy to put myself in their shoes. And that's just the video WJAC has...

14 hours ago, mr.d said:

Still seeking answers

AFTER THE COLLAPSE: DEP sends violation notice, seeks videos from Greentree landfill

• By Katie Weidenboerner katiew@thecourierexpress.com                                                                                                                                              SEE ARTICLE AND PICTURES;      http://www.thecourierexpress.com/news/local/after-the-collapse-dep-sends-violation-notice-seeks-videos-from/article_29fc1a0a-b15c-5527-beaa-5c1b9ed87390.html                                                                                                                              
   

   

Thanks mr.d.

No doubt it's about to get ugly. Did anyone else catch the part that said OSHA had 6 months from the time of the accident to conclude their investigation? That means under 2 months left...

On Monday, June 26, 2017 at 9:45 PM, steelnut said:

I hope the officials keep digging to find out the truth about this.

My little birdie told me another story will be airing at 6 tonight about  video before and after the collapse

Had a rather photogenic chick in last week's hatch

 

Petee, posting pics is ridiculously easy now. No more excuses

Cell! I don't think it's Ipod. That's all I can tell you. I can take pictures, but then to get them sent is a problem. I can't even remember what it is but I'll check today and reply later.

uploading pictures will be much easier after Steve does the Forum update

I can take pictures but haven't figured out how to send them.  Technology, I love it and I hate it.

Iphone or Android?

Yes, that may be the color that is developing.

 

What about a white feather under the wing? Some of them have it and others don't. I'm assuming that is bad?

Not yet, that's very typical for chicks. It should be gone by the time they start laying. It's not an egregious fault, just a deduction for show. It's a common fault in the Davis line, but I've not had any yet.

I should have clarified on the sheen as well. It starts as a bluish purple, but will turn to green as the bird gets older

This is the best show rooster I ever had. He was a black Ameraucana, and had the most beautiful beetle green shimmer

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is a picture of the Buttless Wonder in the midst of his sisters, I hope.

 

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Oh, I see what you are talking about now. You mean that iridescence. That is wonderful! The best blacks are very dark, and have a green shimmer to the feathers as adults. It's called "beetle green", and the more iridescence, the more flashy the birds look. I've never seen a chick that young showing that sheen already. You can send him back to me

Mr Petee had fried chicken, mashed rutabaga and macaroni with tomatoes last night.  It's our first whole meal in a couple of months now between seedlings and chicks on the stove.  It's hot in the kitchen without a fan over the stove, so that may be his last for a while till it gets hooked up.  I can live on love, don't need food!!!!  It runs right up to the ceiling and stops there.  It's supposed to go up through the roof and suck away most of the heat and steam from cooking.

 

By the way, do you have a breeder chicken that doesn't have a tail as a chick?  The Buttless Wonder has slightly different colors (bluer) than the rest of them, and now I'm wondering if it could be a genetic link.  Everyone else got lots of lower tail feathers like a hen's very early, some of them have bigger combs and some not. Some are getting wattles and some not, but one has a pattern of small white spots on its back.  

 

Once I can permanently leg band them, I'll send a picture and a full description.

They all mature at different rates. Most of them mature at about the same pace, but there are always one or two slower or faster. That's why I can't go by tail feathers. I've had chicks that sprout tail feathers early turn out to be boys, and I've had chicks that sprout late turn out to be girls. The combs and wattles are usually my first concrete proof, and I won't sell guaranteed girls until they are about 6 weeks old.

The blue color is interesting. Would you say he looks like he could possibly be a blue, or is it just a hue? If any of the eggs from the blue rooster hatched, it is entirely possible that you get a blue. I have had chicks that are so dark they look black at first, but feather in blue. Those are your best blues, the darker the better. If it's just a hue, that's a byproduct of breeding blues and blacks together. The downy feathers of a black chick can show a little of that blue, but the adult feathers will be totally black. On the hens, the fluffy underfeathers can still look a little bit lighter. A lot of people that show blacks will only breed black to black, that's why I have a rooster of each color. I have an all black pen for breeding blacks, and a blue rooster over black hens for breeding blue. Breeding blue to blue lightens the color too much, so I like to always have at least one parent that's black. After I post this I will go back and look at pictures of the Buttless Wonder to see what I think.

The pattern of small white dots isn't concerning. It amazes me how chicks can carry so much white, then feather in black, and every chick is patterned differently. I'm watching now to see if that is a correlation to how much copper they have as adults. White is only a concern after they feather in completely. On birds for show, you don't want any white feathers hiding under the wings

Well, tonight is do or die!  They are out in the pen with a tote for a shelter.  No varmint should be able to get them.  I could actually cook supper!

Did you have to put them in the coop yourself? I usually have to put them in there for 3 or 4 days, then they figure out the routine. I'm sure no one is happier to have that stove back than Mr. Petee

I rent my house and have a 70 lb. pitbull who would just use them as chew toys. But.... one day! It's on my list.

If you can keep the pitbull out, you can keep predators out. Then again, if you have a pitbull you probably wouldn't have a predator problem

It's fun to go back to page one and see how far we've come since I taunted Petee with eggs   

The one in the center with her eye on the camera is a girl

 

Rooster with the shorter tail

 

Probably a rooster. He's a little smaller, but already has a prominent comb and the wattles are starting to peek out under his chin

 

Group shot with the obligatory fluffy butt pose

Like I said, Overall I'm very pleased with the progress so far. Most of the birds are a very good size, very healthy, and I'm really liking the colors I see. This will be the first group I have grown out from this particular rooster, and it's looking like he makes pretty babies

Ok, Petee, I warned you

You mentioned the vulture look, so here they are so people will know what you are talking about. This is definitely their least "cute" phase. Not to worry, they will be feathered in in about 3 or 4 more weeks.

I'm sorry about your losses. I lost a chick yesterday morning. I use chicken wire over my hog wire in the grow out pens, but something reached through one of those holes and grabbed a chick by the head and pulled what it could through the hole... I'm fairly certain it was a 'coon, but no tracks to see. I set two traps, and set up the trail camera, but I hadn't caught anything as of this morning. I'll check the camera for pictures tonight. I also ran a 2 foot tall section of hardware cloth around the outside of the pens to keep that from happening again. I hate losing birds, it's always preventable. I look at it like if I lose a bird, it's my fault.

Anyway. here are the pictures. I'll post them first, then let you guys know what I see

 

 

 

 

The one in the middle with the white face is definitely a rooster. That's a lot of white color, so I'm curious to see how he colors in with copper as he grows. The one just to the right is definitely a hen, and I'm pretty sure the one in the far right corner is probably a rooster as well. The one on the far left with her head up is a hen. Overall I'm very happy with the colors, but the one in the front center is my only mossy chick. You may have to have it on PC to see the color difference, but in a big picture you can see the mossy undertone to her black feathers

Don't know because it is still in the carton, but I had a heck of a time closing it. I usually tie a piece of butcher twine around my egg cartons to make sure they say closed.

I have on Easter Egger that lays those goose eggs once in a while.

Poor girl...

Got an egg this morning.......119 grams.

 

Double yolker?

The kids went out for their first visit to the countryside today and got to meet their aunties.  Hubby and I are working on a Chick-mobile.  Since the girls can't be left loose in the yard, then they can hop in the Chick-mobile and go for a ride to the grass.  Then it's back to the Coop for the night.  

 

It's amazing the lengths people will go to in order to keep chickens!  

I still have mine in the brooder. Both of my grow out pens are occupied, but one will be vacated this weekend when my Mexican friend takes some roosters off my hands

 

I'll be moving the babies out this weekend, and fair warning Petee, the photobombing will begin