Guest snellma Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Ok, all you great identifiers, I need help. I don't have a picture right now so I will do my best to explain it. We were at Brusters yesterday and they have an arbor with this vine growing up and around it. It had this neat dark purple flower (with some white and dark maroon red) on it that reminded me of a lupine. I kept looking at the leaves and knew it looked familiar. This morning I got up and put 2 and 2 together. I am almost positive it is some form of wisteria but can't find anything to match it. Our wisteria was done blooming months ago, but this one is just starting to bloom. Any thoughts? I will try to get a picture this evening. I broke off one of the branches to see if I could get it to root. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavender Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 It might be the native American Wisteria rather than one of the oriental imports. It grows in your region. Check Wisteria frutescens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest snellma Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 It might be the native American Wisteria rather than one of the oriental imports. It grows in your region. Check Wisteria frutescens Nope, not it. Here are the pictures. Sorry for the busy back ground but I just have it proped up on the corner of the kitchen. Love my 70's wallpaper??? YUK! Can't wait to replace it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavender Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Millettia taiwanensis? Chinese evergreen wisteria http://www.pendernursery.com/Catalog/Detail/millettiataiwanensis.html http://www.mckeowninc.com/plants.html?pid=miltai&d=1&p=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest snellma Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Millettia taiwanensis? Chinese evergreen wisteria http://www.pendernursery.com/Catalog/Detail/millettiataiwanensis.html http://www.mckeowninc.com/plants.html?pid=miltai&d=1&p=0 Bingo - we have a winner. How did you find it? Thank you so much!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavender Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 From the shape of the flowers I thought it was the family Leguminosae. You said it was a vine. After that it was google all the way. It took about five minutes after I gave up on different species of real wisteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tracy96 Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Wow Lavender you're good!:clap: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravytrain33 Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 It is very pretty for whatever its called..I cant pronounce that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavender Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 :ty: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tipcat Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 lavender....how do you know your plants so well? You know just about every plant just from pics. I think that is amazing. snellma....that is very pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest snellma Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 From the shape of the flowers I thought it was the family Leguminosae. You said it was a vine. After that it was google all the way. It took about five minutes after I gave up on different species of real wisteria. But it is wisteria. You said you gave up on wisteria. Did you mean you gave up on the American types of wisteria? My parents were big into flowers so I acquired a lot of my knowledge from them, but I don't even come close to a lot of you here on this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petee Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 If any of you live where Master Gardener classes are available, take them! It gives you tools for identifying and caring for nature in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavender Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 OK Ladies, I cheat. I have a degree in biology with a concentration on horticulture so I learned the basics for identifying plants too many years ago to count. Plants are classified by their flower structure so you can do some narrowing just by that. Snellma recognized the plant she had from her experience as a relative of the wisteria; same family different genus and species. I just sorted out her observations. There are a number of plants (true wisteria) in the genus Wisteria. Wikipedia lists: Wisteria brachybotrys Wisteria floribunda - Japanese Wisteria Wisteria frutescens - American Wisteria Wisteria japonica Wisteria macrostachya - Kentucky Wisteria Wisteria sinensis - Chinese Wisteria Wisteria venusta - Silky Wisteria Wisteria villosa See, all genus Wisteria. Snellma's plant is Millettia taiwanensis. The genus is Millettia not Wisteria. Not a true Wisteria. That is why common names are so tricky; they lead you astray. I looked at the Wisteria genus and realized that the plant Snellma had wasn't any of those so I moved on from the genus Wisteria. Does that make it any clearer? If not it is magic and I'm a lucky guesser. Snellma, you know more than you think you do; you just haven't the tools to sort it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest snellma Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 OK Ladies, I cheat. I have a degree in biology with a concentration on horticulture so I learned the basics for identifying plants too many years ago to count. Plants are classified by their flower structure so you can do some narrowing just by that. Snellma recognized the plant she had from her experience as a relative of the wisteria; same family different genus and species. I just sorted out her observations. There are a number of plants (true wisteria) in the genus Wisteria. Wikipedia lists: Wisteria brachybotrys Wisteria floribunda - Japanese Wisteria Wisteria frutescens - American Wisteria Wisteria japonica Wisteria macrostachya - Kentucky Wisteria Wisteria sinensis - Chinese Wisteria Wisteria venusta - Silky Wisteria Wisteria villosa See, all genus Wisteria. Snellma's plant is Millettia taiwanensis. The genus is Millettia not Wisteria. Not a true Wisteria. That is why common names are so tricky; they lead you astray. I looked at the Wisteria genus and realized that the plant Snellma had wasn't any of those so I moved on from the genus Wisteria. Does that make it any clearer? If not it is magic and I'm a lucky guesser. Snellma, you know more than you think you do; you just haven't the tools to sort it out. Thanks. That makes perfect sense to me. Having the degree in Biology with horticulture as your specialty sure does fill in the gaps as to why you know so much. I was the office manager for the Biology/Chemistry Dept. at Liberty University but I got to know reptiles more. Didn't get too involved with the botany classes like I did the animal ones. I am very thankful for what my parents passed on to me though and realize I do know more than just the average joe. Wish I knew more though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavender Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 I wish I knew about birds. There is a bird in my yard that sounds like a phone ringing. I keep running in to answer it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petee Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Mockingbird? They copy all kinds of sounds and repeat them. I think this is a little out of their normal range but it's not impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittyMommy Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 I had a wonderful little mockingbird when I lived on the Outer Banks. He'd sing, and sing, and at the very end, would say: pretty bird, pretty bird, pretty bird! Someone must have called him pretty bird! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest snellma Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Mom and dad were big bird fans also. I have pictures of my dad in the winter time with the chickodees eating out of his hand. They were all lined up his arm. I think I should have been raised on a farm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavender Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 You can retire to DuBois. We are all farmers. My husband wants to retire to Arizona but I don't really see how that is going to work out. Cactus are nice but they don't taste like fresh garden veggies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 I wish I knew about birds. There is a bird in my yard that sounds like a phone ringing. I keep running in to answer it. That's funny Lavender! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheobe Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 I wish I knew about birds. There is a bird in my yard that sounds like a phone ringing. I keep running in to answer it. You may be hearing a Veery or another bird in the Thrush family. If it sounds like it has a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justme Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Being fooled by a bird is only funny the first couple of times! The next time the phone "rings" I'll count the number of rings. If a Veery naturally sounds like a phone ringing I'll bet that is it. Where we live it is hard to believe that any bird has heard a phone ringing enough times to learn to imitate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavender Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Being fooled by a bird is only funny the first couple of times! The next time the phone "rings" I'll count the number of rings. If a Veery naturally sounds like a phone ringing I'll bet that is it. Where we live it is hard to believe that any bird has heard a phone ringing enough times to learn to imitate it. Oops! It's me! Sorry but I was using a friends laptop and forgot to sign her account out and mine in. I'm in State College and the Nittany Lion Inn. Going to get some pics of the flower beds. There are some great color combinations. I didn't bring a camera but I've go the cell phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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