Pappy Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Gallant: Hamas will soon realize it made a grave mistake, and will pay a heavy price Defense Minister Yoav Gallant threatens the Hamas terror group after it launched a murderous invasion in southern Israel today and fired thousands of rockets “It did not distinguish between women, children, and elderly, it harmed all of them. [Hamas] will soon realize it made a grave mistake, and will pay the price,” Gallant says in a video statement. “We will change the face of reality in Gaza 50 years ahead,” Gallant adds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petee Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 No one messes with that country and lives to enjoy a victory. They forget whose country and children it belongs to. Pappy, Polo, Tiramisu and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petee Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 The land originally belonged to no one specifically but roaming bands and tribes. The Hebrews conquered it at God's command. They led it through many centuries till it was overtaken and the Jews were sold off into captivity and exile in foreign countries. The land went to ruin as swamps and deserts. Little by little Jews came back and began to rebuild Palestine. They were murdered and their homes and crops destroyed. They rebuilt and more Jews came back to rebuild even more. They beat every country around them into submission which a homemade army and without massacres. In 1947 they were given a homeland so their people could return to being a united people. Since then, they have rebuilt the entire country into a thriving land with a tremendous military. There are cities, homes, farmlands, orchards, businesses and peace till someone decides they want what the Jews built. If you want an introduction to their history, read any novel by Leon Uris, starting with Exodus. Basset3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Posted October 11, 2023 Author Share Posted October 11, 2023 David Ben Zion, Deputy Commander of Unit 71, told i24News that he had seen victims decapitated, including children. 'We went door after door, we killed a lot of the terrorists,' he said. 'We are stronger than them. They are aggressive, they are very bad. 'They cut heads off children, cut heads off women. But we are stronger than them.' As many as 40 babies and small children were killed, IDF soldiers told i24News after taking them to the scene of the atrocity. Harrowing images from the scene showed a baby's cot covered with blood; her small bloodied dress lying next to it. The Israeli soldiers were seen comforting each other after witnessing such horrors, including the bodies of entire families who were gunned down in their beds. 'You see the babies, the mothers, the fathers, in their bedrooms, in their protection rooms and how the terrorist kills them,' said Israeli Major General Itai Veruv. 'It's not a war, it's not a battlefield. It's a massacre, it's a terror activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fedup Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 9 hours ago, Petee said: The land originally belonged to no one specifically but roaming bands and tribes. The Hebrews conquered it at God's command. They led it through many centuries till it was overtaken and the Jews were sold off into captivity and exile in foreign countries. The land went to ruin as swamps and deserts. Little by little Jews came back and began to rebuild Palestine. They were murdered and their homes and crops destroyed. They rebuilt and more Jews came back to rebuild even more. They beat every country around them into submission which a homemade army and without massacres. In 1947 they were given a homeland so their people could return to being a united people. Since then, they have rebuilt the entire country into a thriving land with a tremendous military. There are cities, homes, farmlands, orchards, businesses and peace till someone decides they want what the Jews built. If you want an introduction to their history, read any novel by Leon Uris, starting with Exodus. Before 1947 that land belonged to the Arabs. Then the United Nations signed a paper giving that land to the Jewish people telling the Arabs they would be controlled by the Jewish people, a group of people that the Arabs already had hated forever. What would you do if that happened to your home? And the answer is----- you would fight for your home. So the hate got worse and stayed worse since then. Your tax dollars have paid for that hate ever since. You/we have paid for dead bodies in the streets over religion since then. If all this happened to you, you would be singing a different tune. I don't like my money being spent on religion, specially religions that kill in the name of a God. The UN had no right to do what it did along with those that supported such a political move. Politics, such as this, is causing the invasion of our country. Don't you think we should start learning from our history? It won't be too long before your country becomes another Israel and your paying for that future, today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petee Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 You are wrong or so many fronts! Why do you not educate yourself before spouting off such misinformation. Jews BOUGHT the land that they were living on from Palestinians who upped the prices if they were selling to a Jew. Then they would murder the Jews and take the land back. They destroyed and murdered the residents of entire Kibbutzes. Britain which was overseeing the process refused to back the Jews for fear of political and economic retaliation, and took the part of the Palestinians at every chance. During the 7 day war which was fought to stop that violence after the British finally picked up and ran, the Jews fought, sometimes with home-made weapons and backed every country in that area into a corner, including Egypt. In any area where they were overrun, they were murdered mercilessly. The Jews were NEVER accused of such brutality. They fight way TOO ethically which is why they win. Get the book and READ!! Pappy and BigT 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petee Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 The land that you think was given to them was given to them by GOD, they then conquered and civilized it, shared it with anyone who chose to be peaceful, and built it into historic cities. Then the Romans destroyed and burned everything they could find, murdered many and transported the rest to other countries as slaves and exiles. They were not permitted to return to the country that they owned. The Palestinians who were basically Bedouins, living in tents, allowed the land to degrade into swamps and desert. They destroyed huge olive groves to starve people, killed off flocks of animals, burned fields and terrorized their own people. When the Jews started coming back after being killed in pogroms in foreign countries, with everything they owned being stolen, not permitted to hold jobs or live in their own houses, American and worldwide Jews and Christians build a fund to buy land by deed. It then belonged to the Jews, twice! Again, the Palestinians killed and destroyed their homes taking the money and trying to take back the land. The Jews finally fought back and when they backed Egypt into a corner of that country, instead of violence, they simply held the line till the UN took notice. The UN simply returned land that they legally owned, while giving back land that was indefensible. They tried to be fair but it was impossible since Jews are builders, and anything they own, they better so the previous owners then wish they had it back. Whole communities of modern Jewish buildings were simply taken away and given back to the Palestinians for free. Others, they fought for and kept legally. The Palestinians are still fighting to get back what was bought from them and developed. They do NOT own it, and they do not improve where they live, or live peacefully with their neighbors. They were given the Gaza Strip so they would have a seaport of their own in order to develop businesses, but they prefer the profits of war versus hard work and good ethics. Israel is one of the countries that sends aid to the needy in Gaza. Not every Palestinian is so stupid. Many of them see the reality and try to work with Israel, just to be murdered along with their families on a daily basis. You never hear about it but it goes on continually and they have no way to get justice. Thes ones killing their own people and attacking the Jews are hardened criminals and uneducated individuals. Women in particular are still tortured and killed for something as simple as giggling at the wrong time or letting their burka slip half an inch. You willingly spout untruths and idiocy that damages those who read and have no idea what is truly going on. How does that improve our world? Tell me about the dangers of ignorant and misled people. Pappy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petee Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 OH, and just in case you decide to read, try books such as the Haj and The Kite Runner. They're about Palestinians and how they treat their own people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fedup Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Try reading history, not a book. What I typed is the history as written. If real history does not work for you and you just have to have a book written by a man, try reading the book about the creation of Israel by Harry S Truman. Then come back and call me a liar again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fedup Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 If you can't handle real history, try the liberal way to change it. Remove statues and pretend it did not happen. Like I said, if the United Nations treated your property like it did the Arabs property, you would be fighting mad. History is history, it is not what you would like it to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S_A_Hoov Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 https://embassies.gov.il/london/AboutIsrael/history/Pages/Facts about Israel- History.aspx Just some from site 1517-1917 Ottoman rule 1918-48 British rule 1948 STATE OF ISRAEL End of British Mandate (14 May) State of Israel proclaimed (14 May). Israel invaded by five Arab states (15 May). Israel Defense Forces (IDF) established. War of Independence (May 1948-July 1949). 1949 Armistice agreements signed with Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon. Jerusalem divided under Israeli and Jordanian rule. First Knesset (parliament) elected. Israel admitted to United Nations as 59th member. 1948-52 Mass immigration from Europe and Arab countries. 1956 Sinai Campaign 1962 Adolf Eichmann tried and executed in Israel for his part in the Holocaust. 1964 National Water Carrier completed, bringing water from Lake Kinneret in the north to the semi-arid south 1967 Six-Day War; Jerusalem reunited. 1968-70 Egypt's War of Attrition against Israel 1973 Yom Kippur War 1975 Israel becomes an associate member of the European Common Market. 1977 Likud forms government after Knesset elections, end of 30 years of Labor rule. Visit of Egyptian President Anwar Sadat to Jerusalem. 1978 Camp David Accords include framework for comprehensive peace in the Middle East and proposal for Palestinian self-government. 1979 Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty signed. Prime Minister Menachem Begin and President Anwar Sadat awarded Nobel Peace Prize. 1981 Israel Air Force destroys Iraqi nuclear reactor just before it is to become operative. 1982 Israel's three-stage withdrawal from Sinai Peninsula completed. Operation Peace for Galilee removes Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) terrorists from Lebanon. 1984 National unity government (Likud and Labor) formed after elections. Operation Moses, immigration of Jews from Ethiopia. 1985 Free Trade Agreement signed with United States. 1987 Widespread violence (Intifada) starts in Israeli-administered areas. 1988 Likud government wins elections. 1989 Four-point peace initiative proposed by Israel. Start of mass immigration of Jews from former Soviet Union. fedup 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fedup Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 FYI, I ain't choosing either side in this never ending killing of people and on going destruction in the name of a God or a religion. I am choosing the 3rd and most important side. MY COUNTRY. My country needs to quit wasting my money and time on other countries problems. Those people over there has killed and destroyed each other since the beginning of time and your money and my money will not stop them. Your voted for government will continue to milk this killing for votes as long as you let it use your money. Basset3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fedup Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Your useless news providers will use all the right words to continue the never ending drama as they get rich supplying your voted for government news bites they want. Basset3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petee Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 17 hours ago, fedup said: Try reading history, not a book. What I typed is the history as written. If real history does not work for you and you just have to have a book written by a man, try reading the book about the creation of Israel by Harry S Truman. Then come back and call me a liar again. I did not call you a liar, you're just uneducated. The books I mentioned are based on history and were best sellers for years. I'm sure the political history is convoluted and tailored to represent exactly what Truman wanted people to remember. Every president or political tries writing a book in an attempt to explain away how things that turned out was or wasn't their fault. Very little of it conforms to actual history. Remember Hillary's "It takes a Village". Sure. Read what the common man wrote for all the world to judge, then read some more. Soon you'll see a pattern of truth. It's hard to create a story that agrees with other authors when based on lies. History can't be changed for those who have no reason to change it. Truth is far more interesting than fiction. BigT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fedup Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 8 hours ago, Petee said: I did not call you a liar, you're just uneducated. The books I mentioned are based on history and were best sellers for years. I'm sure the political history is convoluted and tailored to represent exactly what Truman wanted people to remember. Every president or political tries writing a book in an attempt to explain away how things that turned out was or wasn't their fault. Very little of it conforms to actual history. Remember Hillary's "It takes a Village". Sure. Read what the common man wrote for all the world to judge, then read some more. Soon you'll see a pattern of truth. It's hard to create a story that agrees with other authors when based on lies. History can't be changed for those who have no reason to change it. Truth is far more interesting than fiction. Actual history. Your God did not create the state of Israel, the United Nations did. I don't need to read any book in order to make history appear as I want it. Sorry Petee but that is what you are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petee Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 12 hours ago, fedup said: Actual history. Your God did not create the state of Israel, the United Nations did. I don't need to read any book in order to make history appear as I want it. Sorry Petee but that is what you are doing. Gee, they created the state of Israel out of thin air. Hmmmm! Interesting that it was called Israel in the Old Testament and Palestine was divided in to Judah and Israel. Maybe SA Hoover could dig into the pre-Ottoman status of Israel. It existed even before the Ottomans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petee Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Petee said: Gee, they created the state of Israel out of thin air. Hmmmm! Interesting that it was called Israel in the Old Testament and Palestine was divided in to Judah and Israel. Maybe SA Hoover could dig into the pre-Ottoman status of Israel. It existed even before the Ottomans. 3 minutes ago, Petee said: Gee, they created the state of Israel out of thin air. Hmmmm! Interesting that it was called Israel in the Old Testament and Palestine was divided in to Judah and Israel. Maybe SA Hoover could dig into the pre-Ottoman status of Israel. It existed even before the Ottomans. Facts About Israel: History The birthplace of the Jewish people is the Land of Israel. There, a significant part of the nation's long history was enacted, of which the first thousand years are recorded in the Bible. 2010 Edition Section of an illuminated late-medieval map of the Tribes of Israel (Courtesy R. Ben-Haim) זכר ימות עולם בינו שנות דור ודור... - דברים ל"ב:ז Remember the days of old, consider the years of many generations... (Deuteronomy 32:7) The birthplace of the Jewish people is the Land of Israel (Eretz Yisrael). There, a significant part of the nation's long history was enacted, of which the first thousand years are recorded in the Bible; there, its cultural, religious, and national identity was formed; and there, its physical presence has been maintained through the centuries, even after the majority was forced into exile. During the many years of dispersion, the Jewish people never severed nor forgot its bond with the Land. With the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948, Jewish independence, lost 2,000 years earlier, was renewed. Archeology in Israel involves the systematic investigation of all the remains of the country's past - from prehistory to the end of Ottoman rule. The profusion of material remains is evidence of the many cultures that have left their imprint on the Land. Above all archeological research clearly reveals the historical link between the Jewish people, the Bible and the Land of Israel, uncovering the remains of the cultural heritage of the Jewish people in its homeland. These visible remains, buried in the soil, constitute the physical link between the past, the present and the future of the Jewish people in its country. This unbroken chain of history can be observed at sites all over the country. Jerusalem, the capital of Israel, has been the focus of extensive archeological activity and remains of 5,000 years of history have been revealed. TIMELINE OF HISTORICAL HIGHLIGHTS 17th-6th C. BCE BIBLICAL TIMES (BCE - Before the Common Era) c.17th century Drawings by Noam Nadav Abraham, Isaac, Jacob - patriarchs of the Jewish people and bearers of a belief in one God - settle in the Land of Israel. Famine forces Israelites to migrate to Egypt. c.13th century Exodus from Egypt: Moses leads Israelites from Egypt, followed by 40 years of wandering in the desert. Torah, including the Ten Commandments, received at Mount Sinai. 13th-12th centuries Israelites settle in the Land of Israel c.1020 Jewish monarchy established; Saul, first king. c.1000 Jerusalem made capital of David's kingdom. c.960 First Temple, the national and spiritual center of the Jewish people, built in Jerusalem by King Solomon. c. 930 Divided kingdom: Judah and Israel 722-720 Israel crushed by Assyrians; 10 tribes exiled (Ten Lost Tribes). 586 Judah conquered by Babylonia; Jerusalem and First Temple destroyed; most Jews exiled. THE SECOND TEMPLE PERIOD 538-142 Persian and Hellenistic periods 538-515 Many Jews return from Babylonia; Temple rebuilt. 332 Land conquered by Alexander the Great; Hellenistic rule. 166-160 Maccabean (Hasmonean) revolt against restrictions on practice of Judaism and desecration of the Temple 142-129 Jewish autonomy under Hasmoneans. 129-63 Jewish independence under Hasmonean monarchy. 63 Jerusalem captured by Roman general, Pompey. 63 BCE-313 CE Roman rule 63-4 BCE Herod, Roman vassal king, rules the Land of Israel; Temple in Jerusalem refurbished (CE - The Common Era) c. 20-33 Ministry of Jesus of Nazareth 66 Jewish revolt against the Romans 70 Destruction of Jerusalem and Second Temple. 73 Last stand of Jews at Masada. 132-135 Bar Kokhba uprising against Rome. c. 210 Codification of Jewish oral law (Mishna) completed. FOREIGN DOMINATION 313-636 Byzantine rule c. 390 Commentary on the Mishna (Jerusalem Talmud) completed. 614 Persian invasion 636-1099 Arab rule 691 On site of First and Second Temples in Jerusalem, Dome of the Rock built by Caliph Abd el-Malik. 1099-1291 Crusader domination (Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem) 1291-1516 Mamluk rule 1517-1917 Ottoman rule 1564 Code of Jewish law (Shulhan Arukh) published. 1860 First neighborhood built outside walls of Jerusalem's Old City. 1882-1903 First Aliya (large-scale immigration), mainly from Russia. 1897 First Zionist Congress convened by Theodor Herzl in Basel, Switzerland; Zionist Organization founded. 1904-14 Second Aliya, mainly from Russia and Poland. 1909 First kibbutz, Degania, and first modern all-Jewish city, Tel Aviv, founded. 1917 400 years of Ottoman rule ended by British conquest; British Foreign Minister Balfour pledges support for establishment of a "Jewish national home in Palestine" 1918-48 British rule 1919-23 Third Aliya, mainly from Russia 1920 Histadrut (General Federation of Labor) and Haganah (Jewish defense organization) founded. Vaad Leumi (National Council) set up by Jewish community (Yishuv) to conduct its affairs. 1921 First moshav (cooperative village), Nahalal, founded. 1922 Britain granted Mandate for Palestine (Land of Israel) by League of Nations; Transjordan set up on three-fourths of the area, leaving one fourth for the Jewish national home. Jewish Agency representing Jewish community vis-a-vis Mandate authorities set up. 1924 Technion, first institute of technology, founded in Haifa. 1924-32 Fourth Aliya, mainly from Poland. 1925 Hebrew University of Jerusalem opened on Mount Scopus. 1929 Hebron Jews massacred by Arab terrorists. 1931 Etzel, Jewish underground organization, founded. 1933-39 Fifth Aliya, mainly from Germany. 1936-39 Anti-Jewish riots instigated by Arab terrorists. 1939 Jewish immigration severely limited by British White Paper. 1939-45 World War II; Holocaust in Europe. 1941 Lehi underground movement formed; Palmach, strike force of Haganah, set up. 1944 Jewish Brigade formed as part of British forces. 1947 UN proposes the establishment of Arab and Jewish states in the Land. STATE OF ISRAEL 1948 End of British Mandate (14 May) State of Israel proclaimed (14 May). Israel invaded by five Arab states (15 May). Israel Defense Forces (IDF) established. War of Independence (May 1948-July 1949). 1949 Armistice agreements signed with Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon. Jerusalem divided under Israeli and Jordanian rule. First Knesset (parliament) elected. Israel admitted to United Nations as 59th member. 1948-52 Mass immigration from Europe and Arab countries. 1956 Sinai Campaign 1962 Adolf Eichmann tried and executed in Israel for his part in the Holocaust. 1964 National Water Carrier completed, bringing water from Lake Kinneret in the north to the semi-arid south. 1967 Six-Day War; Jerusalem reunited. 1968-70 Egypt's War of Attrition against Israel 1973 Yom Kippur War 1975 Israel becomes an associate member of the European Common Market. 1977 Likud forms government after Knesset elections, end of 30 years of Labor rule. Visit of Egyptian President Anwar Sadat to Jerusalem. 1978 Camp David Accords include framework for comprehensive peace in the Middle East and proposal for Palestinian self-government. 1979 Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty signed. Prime Minister Menachem Begin and President Anwar Sadat awarded Nobel Peace Prize. 1981 Israel Air Force destroys Iraqi nuclear reactor just before it is to become operative. 1982 Israel's three-stage withdrawal from Sinai Peninsula completed. Operation Peace for Galilee removes Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) terrorists from Lebanon. 1984 National unity government (Likud and Labor) formed after elections. Operation Moses, immigration of Jews from Ethiopia. 1985 Free Trade Agreement signed with United States. 1987 Widespread violence (Intifada) starts in Israeli-administered areas. 1988 Likud government wins elections. 1989 Four-point peace initiative proposed by Israel. Start of mass immigration of Jews from former Soviet Union. 1991 Israel attacked by Iraqi Scud missiles during Gulf war. Middle East peace conference convened in Madrid; Operation Solomon, airlift of Jews from Ethiopia. 1992 Diplomatic relations established with China and India. New government headed by Yitzhak Rabin of Labor Party. 1993 Declaration of Principles on Interim Self-Government Arrangements for the Palestinians signed by Israel and PLO, as representative of the Palestinian people (Oslo Accords). 1994 Implementation of Palestinian self-government in Gaza Strip and Jericho area. Full diplomatic relations with the Holy See. Morocco and Tunisia interest offices set up. Israel-Jordan Peace Treaty signed. Rabin, Peres, Arafat awarded Nobel Peace Prize. 1995 Broadened Palestinian self-government implemented in West Bank and Gaza Strip; Palestinian Council elected. Prime Minister Rabin assassinated at peace rally. Shimon Peres becomes prime minister. 1996 Fundamentalist Arab terrorism against Israel escalates. Operation Grapes of Wrath, retaliation for Hizbullah terrorists' attacks on northern Israel. Trade representation offices set up in Oman and Qatar. Likud forms government after Knesset elections. Binyamin Netanyahu elected prime minister. Omani trade representation office opened in Tel Aviv. 1997 Hebron Protocol signed by Israel and the PA. 1998 Israel celebrates its 50th anniversary. Israel and the PLO sign the Wye River Memorandum to facilitate implementation of the Interim Agreement. 1999 Ehud Barak (left-wing One Israel party) elected prime minister; forms coalition government. Israel and the PLO sign the Sharm-el-Sheikh Memorandum. 2000 Visit of Pope Paul II. Israel withdraws from the Security Zone in southern Lebanon. Israel admitted to UN Western European and Others Group. Renewed violence (Second Intifada). Prime Minister Barak resigns. 2001 Ariel Sharon (Likud) elected Prime Minister; forms broad-based unity government. The Sharm-el-Sheikh Fact-Finding Committee report (Mitchell Report) issued. Palestinian-Israeli Security Implementation Work Plan (Tenet ceasefire plan) proposed. Rechavam Ze'evy, Minister of Tourism, assassinated by Palestinian terrorists. 2002 Israel launches Operation Defensive Shield in response to massive Palestinian terrorist attacks. Israel begins building the anti-terrorist fence to stop West Bank terrorists from killing Israeli citizens. Prime Minister Sharon disperses the Knesset, calling for new elections to be held on 28 January 2003. 2003 Right-of-center coalition government formed by Prime Minister Ariel Sharon. Israel accepts the Roadmap. 2005 Israel carries out the Disengagement Plan, ending Israel's presence in the Gaza Strip. 2006 After Prime Minister Sharon suffers a stroke, Ehud Olmert becomes acting prime minister. Following elections on 28 March, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert forms new government led by the Kadima Party. Israel carried out military operations against Palestinian terrorists in Gaza after kidnapping of Israeli soldier. The Second War in Lebanon, during which Israel carried out military operations against Hizbullah terrorism from southern Lebanon, following missile attacks and kidnapping of two Israeli soldiers. 2007 Shimon Peres elected President by the Knesset. Israel declares Gaza "hostile territory" following Hamas violent takeover of Gaza Strip. 2008 Israel celebrates its 60th anniversary. Israel launches its Gaza Operation (Operation Cast Lead) in response to the barrage of over 10,000 rockets and mortars fired from the Gaza Strip. 2009 Benjamin Netanyahu is elected Prime Minister in national elections held in February 2009, and forms a broad-based coalition government The city of Tel Aviv celebrates its 100th anniversary. 2010 Israel joins the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD). Printable version E-mail to a friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petee Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 OK Fed Up, check the rest of the story above, pre-Ottoman rule. The Israelites ruled that country BCE. There were no Palestinians, just roaming bands of Bedouins who owned nothing and chose to live that way. Pappy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petee Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 And from the Philistines was coined the word Palestine.....which was ruled by Israel even before that time. OK, forget the books and let's go directly to history. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/07075332.1980.9640202#:~:text=The earliest in common use,the death of King Solomon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petee Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 History of the "Palestinians" who did not exist as an entity till after 1942. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Palestinians#:~:text=Since 1964%2C they have been,-'arabi il-filastini). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petee Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 The beginning of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict: 1. https://history.state.gov/milestones/1945-1952/arab-israeli-war#:~:text=The Arab-Israeli War of 1948 broke out when five,Israel on May 14%2C 1948. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fedup Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 Sorry Petee the Bible is not the place to find truthful history. You refuse to answer the question I keep asking you. So once again, how would you feel if you woke up tomorrow and found out that you no longer lived in a place called The United States of America? Would you fight to the death to get your beloved country back? Would you ask other like minded countries/people to help you? Because that Is what you are seeing today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S_A_Hoov Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 28 minutes ago, fedup said: Sorry Petee the Bible is not the place to find truthful history. You refuse to answer the question I keep asking you. So once again, how would you feel if you woke up tomorrow and found out that you no longer lived in a place called The United States of America? Would you fight to the death to get your beloved country back? Would you ask other like minded countries/people to help you? Because that Is what you are seeing today. The Native Americans tried that and lost. fedup 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fedup Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 History & Society United Nations Resolution 181 Israeli-Palestinian history Print Cite Share Feedback Also known as: Resolution 181 Written and fact-checked by The Editors of Encyclopaedia Britannica Last Updated: Sep 29, 2023 • Article History Listen to article2 minutes UN partition plan for Israel and Palestine in 1947 United Nations Resolution 181, resolution passed by the United Nations (UN) General Assembly in 1947 that called for the partition of Palestine into Arab and Jewish states, with the city of Jerusalem as a corpus separatum (Latin: “separate entity”) to be governed by a special international regime. The resolution—which was considered by the Jewish community in Palestine to be a legal basis for the establishment of Israel, and which was rejected by the Arab community—was succeeded almost immediately by violence. Palestine had been governed by Great Britain since 1922. Since that time, Jewish immigration to the region had increased, and tensions between Arabs and Jews had grown. In April 1947, exhausted by World War II and increasingly intent upon withdrawing from the Middle East region, Britain referred the issue of Palestine to the UN. To investigate a suitable course of action, the UN formed the UN Special Committee on Palestine (UNSCOP), an inquiry committee made up of members from 11 countries. Ultimately, UNSCOP delivered two proposals: that of the majority, which recommended two separate states joined economically, and that of the minority, which supported the formation of a single binational state made up of autonomous Jewish and Palestinian areas. The Jewish community approved of the first of these proposals, while the Arabs opposed them both. A counterproposal—including a provision that only those Jews who had arrived before the Balfour Declaration (and their descendents) would be citizens of the state—did not win Jewish favour. The proposal to partition Palestine, based on a modified version of the UNSCOP majority report, was put to a General Assembly vote on November 29, 1947. The fate of the proposal was initially uncertain, but, after a period of intense lobbying by pro-Jewish groups and individuals, ns.the resolution was passed with 33 votes in favour, 13 against, and 10 abstentio Petee, that's 56 people who had the ability to vote on giving the Jewish people land that no longer belonged to them and had not belonged to them for hundreds of years. 33 people gave that land to the Jewish people. 33 people, think about that, 33 people voted to continue the killing and managed to affect our lives today. The native indians controlled North America for hundreds of years, then the white man came and beat the snot out of them, killing women and children at will. So the native indians lost their abiity to control their very homes. Does that sound familiar to you??? Suppose the United nations met yesterday and 33 of them decided to give the United States back to the native Americans and you woke up this morning with native Indians controlling your life, a group of people with revenge on their minds. Once again, would you not fight to the death to get back what was yours yesterday????? The Jews and the Arabs have been killing each other for as long as they have been in existence. In 1947 33 people just threw fuel onto that fire of hate. They solved nothing. The results of their stupidity is what you get when you allow a micro-minority of people to control your life. If you and other continue to bring your gods into all of this you are just perpetuating the use of religion to kill people. Don't you think we have had enough of that ongoing stupid???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petee Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 1 hour ago, fedup said: Sorry Petee the Bible is not the place to find truthful history. You refuse to answer the question I keep asking you. So once again, how would you feel if you woke up tomorrow and found out that you no longer lived in a place called The United States of America? Would you fight to the death to get your beloved country back? Would you ask other like minded countries/people to help you? Because that Is what you are seeing today. I would work for PEACE! That would be regardless of who controlled whatever. I posted HISTORICAL FACT right from the UN and other sources. WHAT Bible history, but then I guess I didn't realize the depths of your refusal to READ!! Pappy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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