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Why the GOP, Fox-So-Called "News" & Rightwing Hate Radio Use Fear as Their Primary Tool

This strategy, employed by dictators and autocrats, is as ancient as history. Caligula did it, as did Nero. Mussolini, Hitler, Putin, and Orbán achieved and exercised power using fear

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Marjorie Taylor Greene is warning America that God is vengeful, evil will be punished, and the [international Jewish] “Globalists” are out to destroy America. Like most of today’s Republicans — particularly the Trump-humpers in the Congressional Sedition Caucus — she portrays an America under attack from within and in a state of decay and collapse.

Most Democratic political messaging and ads are upbeat and talk about what politicians and the party have done and hope to do for working class and poor Americans. Most Republican ads, on the other hand, are dark, ominous, and point to danger, death, and destruction.

Every wonder why this has been the case for at least 40 years?

Our most primal emotion is fear. For millions of years it helped us and our primate ancestors survive: fear kept us wary of predators and other dangers. Walk up to a wild squirrel or bird and you’ll see fear kick in as they run or fly away from you: every animal on Earth maintains its life on a substrate of fear.

This is why fear is so powerful: it’s at the core of our survival instincts, right alongside thirst, hunger, breathing, and the need to excrete waste. It’s wired into our brains and begins to function at the moment of our birth: the younger and more helpless we are — all the way back to our first moments outside mom — the more easily we slip into fear.

Because fear was primary at our birth, when we experience it as adults it tends to throw us back to our infancy. It’s why torture victims usually sob uncontrollably; why George Floyd and Tyree Nichols both called out for their mothers as police officers brutally murdered them: Floyd’s mother had been dead two years when he called her name as he died.

Fear, in other words, infantilizes us. It takes us back to a time before knowledge, before logic, before we felt power and agency as an adult. Fear sweeps aside a lifetime of learning and maturing and reduces us, emotionally, to infancy.

Which is precisely why Republicans and GOP-aligned media like Fox “News” and rightwing hate radio use fear as their primary tool to capture and motivate voters. Turn on rightwing media at any random time and you’ll get a fiery blast of rhetoric and imagery specifically designed to induce fear, thus producing infantilization.

Because infants don’t question things. They don’t make comparisons. They don’t put things in context or look for alternative explanations. They don’t think critically.

They just cry out for mom or dad, and when Republicans can throw them into that state of fear,  part two of the classic authoritarian playbook kicks in: offer a powerful-seeming parental figure (almost always male) who can reassure frightened Republicans that he’ll take care of them, he’ll hold the threats at bay, he’ll keep them safe if they just surrender their agency and power to him.

Donald Trump has been playing this game ever since he came down the escalator in 2015 ranting about dark-skinned “rapists and murderers pouring across our border” from Mexico. His first inaugural address, his infamous “American Carnage” speech, referred to our “inner cities,” “crime and the gangs” and “radical Islamic terrorism, which we will eradicate completely from the face of the Earth.”

But fear as a GOP political weapon goes back much farther than Trump. Nixon did it when he declared his racist “war on drugs.” Reagan did it when he referred to Black people as “monkeys” and “cannibals” who are “uncomfortable wearing shoes.” George HW Bush did it with his Willie Horton ads. George W. Bush did it to justify two illegal wars while torturing and extrajudicially murdering Afghan and Iraqi civilians.

If you can scare people badly enough, you can get them to go along with almost anything sold to them as providing safety and security.

It’s why every fascist movement in history starts out by dehumanizing its victims, then characterizing them as an existential threat. Whether it was Hitler’s characterization of Jews, or DeSantis’ portrayal of trans people and drag queens as “groomers and predators,” the script is always the same.

Scare people, point to an “other” as the threat, and then promise to “deal with” that threat in the most brutal and thus instantly effective way possible. Double bonus points for convincing people that their beloved children are the ones primarily under threat.

As the brilliant Amanda Marcotte noted for Salon:

“The last thing MAGA stands for, in fact, is making America great, much less ‘great again.’ These are people caught up in a dark fantasy that they live in a zombie movie.”

She goes so far as to speculate that Republicans refuse to do anything about gun violence because mass- and school-shootings increase the fear of Americans, and Republicans live on fear the way vampires live on blood (my metaphor, not hers).

Ignoring the very real “sexualizing” effect of pornography instantly available on the internet — it’s a multibillion-dollar industry that could be cordoned off with an “.xxx” domain that requires age verification to access — the GOP has blocked all efforts to keep explicit porn away from our children. Republicans instead want you to believe that drag queens, public school teachers, and trans people are “groomers” and “molesters.”

You won’t hear a peep out of them about the steady stream of fundamentalist and Catholic pastors and priests (and Republican politicians) arrested for grooming and molesting: this is about creating fear and then redirecting that fear against people who are the least likely to be able to fight back.

While Republican politicians will blithely tell you there’s “nothing that can be done” about high-velocity bullets from assault weapons tearing our schoolchildren’s bodies into mangled and sometimes unidentifiable masses of bloody meat, they’ll go to the mat for fetuses.

Why? Because defending innocence and purity is the other face of attacking sinfulness and danger. As Pastor Dave Barnhart wrote on his Facebook page back in 2018:

‘The unborn’ are a convenient group of people to advocate for.

“They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don't resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don't ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don't need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don't bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn.”

The GOP’s relentless focus on criminalizing abortion is part and parcel of their larger efforts to infantilize Republican voters. To protect them from scary Black men, uppity women, terrified asylum seekers, poor people, union “bosses,” and “Marxist” progressives who want to give them free healthcare and college.

Once white voters are reduced to that child-like state, with every fear assuaged by performative anti-trans, anti-gay, anti-Black history, anti-drag, and anti-abortion laws, it’s an easy step to telling them, as Trump did repeatedly:

“Only we can help you. Only we can ‘save’ America and bring her back to the uncomplicated white supremacy glory days of the 1950s.”

This strategy, employed by dictators and autocrats, is as ancient as history. Caligula did it, as did Nero. Mussolini, Hitler, Putin, and Orbán achieved and exercised power using fear.

And now the GOP has adopted fear as their first and foremost electoral strategy, knowing it’s so powerful that both optimism and fact-checking almost always fail against it.

Ironically, in their overreach, Republican policies are now inspiring so much reactive fear in Democratic voters — particularly among women, students, the queer community, and people of color — that it may end up propelling millions of new progressive voters to the polls.

Turnabout, apparently, is fair play.

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2 hours ago, fedup said:

All these posts you made are a contradiction of what you say you believe.  

 

One of many----- FORCING somone to go through any of these procedures is barbaric and totalitarian.  But cutting a kids dick off ain't???????

 

Sorry you think the government should have the right to tell other people what they can do with their bodies-----Your telling me right now, according to you I ain't allowed to prove liberals are bad for America. I am supposed to sit down and shut up while you kill us all.  That ain't gonna happen.

All humans and most animals are born liberal-----then they grow up into self supporting individual non-liberals that can think and do fore theirselves.

So as a liberal you support an adult who cut's off dicks and boobs because it is a kids right to have it done. Plus force them into taking drugs?

Try this on for size--- your grandfather goes to your great grand father and asks to have his dick cut off and the old Liberal says "sure son it's your body"   Now, the severing of the dick happens before Critter was born--------POOF another liberal no longer on this earth. 

Can't you see the whole picture???? You liberals are trying to manipulate the human race into what they want.  Now tell me again how I am telling you what to do with your body. 

 

ON AND ON AND ON IT GOES

Every day a Liberal is trying to run your life and they mostly are making that happen while you sit by and argue with me and other Americans who are trying to get you to see you are being used like a puppet. You said you don't like piercings except in the ears, Try removing that big ring the liberals stuck in your nose to lead you a

Any one under the age of 18 is a child, a kid. I repeat, I oppose these procedures for anyone under the age of 18. If Chloe Cole prevails in court I hope she gets a huge settlement from Kaiser and others.

And if my grandfather had lost his dick I would hope my poor mother would have married a man who would have treated her like a queen.

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I for one don't care what anyone does. As long as it don't effect me and mine and the government doesn't pay for it with tax dollars.

As a side note: This sex change or gender change, remines me of the molestation craze of the 80s. Back then seemed like 99 out of 100 people were molested. The only difference is they didn't go around killing people.

 

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Why the GOP, Fox-So-Called "News" & Rightwing Hate Radio Use Fear as Their Primary Tool

This strategy, employed by dictators and autocrats, is as ancient as history. Caligula did it, as did Nero. Mussolini, Hitler, Putin, and Orbán achieved and exercised power using fear

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Marjorie Taylor Greene is warning America that God is vengeful, evil will be punished, and the [international Jewish] “Globalists” are out to destroy America. Like most of today’s Republicans — particularly the Trump-humpers in the Congressional Sedition Caucus — she portrays an America under attack from within and in a state of decay and collapse.

Most Democratic political messaging and ads are upbeat and talk about what politicians and the party have done and hope to do for working class and poor Americans. Most Republican ads, on the other hand, are dark, ominous, and point to danger, death, and destruction.

Every wonder why this has been the case for at least 40 years?

Our most primal emotion is fear. For millions of years it helped us and our primate ancestors survive: fear kept us wary of predators and other dangers. Walk up to a wild squirrel or bird and you’ll see fear kick in as they run or fly away from you: every animal on Earth maintains its life on a substrate of fear.

This is why fear is so powerful: it’s at the core of our survival instincts, right alongside thirst, hunger, breathing, and the need to excrete waste. It’s wired into our brains and begins to function at the moment of our birth: the younger and more helpless we are — all the way back to our first moments outside mom — the more easily we slip into fear.

Because fear was primary at our birth, when we experience it as adults it tends to throw us back to our infancy. It’s why torture victims usually sob uncontrollably; why George Floyd and Tyree Nichols both called out for their mothers as police officers brutally murdered them: Floyd’s mother had been dead two years when he called her name as he died.

Fear, in other words, infantilizes us. It takes us back to a time before knowledge, before logic, before we felt power and agency as an adult. Fear sweeps aside a lifetime of learning and maturing and reduces us, emotionally, to infancy.

Which is precisely why Republicans and GOP-aligned media like Fox “News” and rightwing hate radio use fear as their primary tool to capture and motivate voters. Turn on rightwing media at any random time and you’ll get a fiery blast of rhetoric and imagery specifically designed to induce fear, thus producing infantilization.

Because infants don’t question things. They don’t make comparisons. They don’t put things in context or look for alternative explanations. They don’t think critically.

They just cry out for mom or dad, and when Republicans can throw them into that state of fear,  part two of the classic authoritarian playbook kicks in: offer a powerful-seeming parental figure (almost always male) who can reassure frightened Republicans that he’ll take care of them, he’ll hold the threats at bay, he’ll keep them safe if they just surrender their agency and power to him.

Donald Trump has been playing this game ever since he came down the escalator in 2015 ranting about dark-skinned “rapists and murderers pouring across our border” from Mexico. His first inaugural address, his infamous “American Carnage” speech, referred to our “inner cities,” “crime and the gangs” and “radical Islamic terrorism, which we will eradicate completely from the face of the Earth.”

But fear as a GOP political weapon goes back much farther than Trump. Nixon did it when he declared his racist “war on drugs.” Reagan did it when he referred to Black people as “monkeys” and “cannibals” who are “uncomfortable wearing shoes.” George HW Bush did it with his Willie Horton ads. George W. Bush did it to justify two illegal wars while torturing and extrajudicially murdering Afghan and Iraqi civilians.

If you can scare people badly enough, you can get them to go along with almost anything sold to them as providing safety and security.

It’s why every fascist movement in history starts out by dehumanizing its victims, then characterizing them as an existential threat. Whether it was Hitler’s characterization of Jews, or DeSantis’ portrayal of trans people and drag queens as “groomers and predators,” the script is always the same.

Scare people, point to an “other” as the threat, and then promise to “deal with” that threat in the most brutal and thus instantly effective way possible. Double bonus points for convincing people that their beloved children are the ones primarily under threat.

As the brilliant Amanda Marcotte noted for Salon:

“The last thing MAGA stands for, in fact, is making America great, much less ‘great again.’ These are people caught up in a dark fantasy that they live in a zombie movie.”

She goes so far as to speculate that Republicans refuse to do anything about gun violence because mass- and school-shootings increase the fear of Americans, and Republicans live on fear the way vampires live on blood (my metaphor, not hers).

Ignoring the very real “sexualizing” effect of pornography instantly available on the internet — it’s a multibillion-dollar industry that could be cordoned off with an “.xxx” domain that requires age verification to access — the GOP has blocked all efforts to keep explicit porn away from our children. Republicans instead want you to believe that drag queens, public school teachers, and trans people are “groomers” and “molesters.”

You won’t hear a peep out of them about the steady stream of fundamentalist and Catholic pastors and priests (and Republican politicians) arrested for grooming and molesting: this is about creating fear and then redirecting that fear against people who are the least likely to be able to fight back.

While Republican politicians will blithely tell you there’s “nothing that can be done” about high-velocity bullets from assault weapons tearing our schoolchildren’s bodies into mangled and sometimes unidentifiable masses of bloody meat, they’ll go to the mat for fetuses.

Why? Because defending innocence and purity is the other face of attacking sinfulness and danger. As Pastor Dave Barnhart wrote on his Facebook page back in 2018:

‘The unborn’ are a convenient group of people to advocate for.

“They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don't resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don't ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don't need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don't bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn.”

The GOP’s relentless focus on criminalizing abortion is part and parcel of their larger efforts to infantilize Republican voters. To protect them from scary Black men, uppity women, terrified asylum seekers, poor people, union “bosses,” and “Marxist” progressives who want to give them free healthcare and college.

Once white voters are reduced to that child-like state, with every fear assuaged by performative anti-trans, anti-gay, anti-Black history, anti-drag, and anti-abortion laws, it’s an easy step to telling them, as Trump did repeatedly:

“Only we can help you. Only we can ‘save’ America and bring her back to the uncomplicated white supremacy glory days of the 1950s.”

This strategy, employed by dictators and autocrats, is as ancient as history. Caligula did it, as did Nero. Mussolini, Hitler, Putin, and Orbán achieved and exercised power using fear.

And now the GOP has adopted fear as their first and foremost electoral strategy, knowing it’s so powerful that both optimism and fact-checking almost always fail against it.

Ironically, in their overreach, Republican policies are now inspiring so much reactive fear in Democratic voters — particularly among women, students, the queer community, and people of color — that it may end up propelling millions of new progressive voters to the polls.

Turnabout, apparently, is fair play.

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Isn't this writer the pot calling the kettle black? What a load of screwed up hooey that twists the facts about God.  God does indeed give vengeance in some cases, and discipline where it is will bring back rewards.  Bad luck has nothing at all to do with God, it's simply sticking out your tongue at common sense and letting yourself fly into the storm, any storm will do. God warns about the road ahead, but you are the one who drives full speed ahead, right off of the cliff.

This report was written for the sake of drama and stirring up turmoil, nothing more.

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41 minutes ago, Petee said:

Isn't this writer the pot calling the kettle black? What a load of screwed up hooey that twists the facts about God.  God does indeed give vengeance in some cases, and discipline where it is will bring back rewards.  Bad luck has nothing at all to do with God, it's simply sticking out your tongue at common sense and letting yourself fly into the storm, any storm will do. God warns about the road ahead, but you are the one who drives full speed ahead, right off of the cliff.

This report was written for the sake of drama and stirring up turmoil, nothing more.

Which is true of all political commentators. Left or right. Peoples opinion, nothing more.

 

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20 hours ago, weirdcritter said:

Any one under the age of 18 is a child, a kid. I repeat, I oppose these procedures for anyone under the age of 18. If Chloe Cole prevails in court I hope she gets a huge settlement from Kaiser and others.

And if my grandfather had lost his dick I would hope my poor mother would have married a man who would have treated her like a queen.

You may oppose these procedures but your fellow Liberals  and you support such things. A vote for a Liberal is a vote for the knife. 

There is a big difference between losing a Dick and begging to have it removed. 

 

A eunuch (/ˈjuːnək/ (



) YOO-nək)[1] is a male who has been castrated.[2] Throughout history, castration often served a specific social function.[3]

The earliest records for intentional castration to produce eunuchs are from the Sumerian city of Lagash in the 2nd millennium BCE.[4][5] Over the millennia since, they have performed a wide variety of functions in many different cultures: courtiers or equivalent domestics, for espionage or clandestine operations, castrato singers, concubines, or sexual partners, religious specialists, soldiers, royal guards, government officials, and guardians of women or harem servants.

Eunuchs would usually be servants or slaves who had been castrated to make them less threatening servants of a royal court where physical access to the ruler could wield great influence.[6] Seemingly lowly domestic functions—such as making the ruler's bed, bathing him, cutting his hair, carrying him in his litter, or even relaying messages—could, in theory, give a eunuch "the ruler's ear" and impart de facto power on the formally humble but trusted servant. Similar instances are reflected in the humble origins and etymology of many high offices.

Eunuchs supposedly did not generally have loyalties to the military, the aristocracy, or a family of their own (having neither offspring nor in-laws, at the very least). They were thus seen as more trustworthy and less interested in establishing a private "dynasty". Because their condition usually lowered their social status, they could also be easily replaced or killed without repercussion. In cultures that had both harems and eunuchs, eunuchs were sometimes used as harem servants.

 

And then there are men who had their dick removed by someone else trying to control them. 

 

Does that sound familiar?????

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OK Critter, you believe that a free America with free citizens is not possible with out Liberals and Liberalism. What about Socialists and Socialism?  You know, that stupid Idea that has never worked in any society---EVER.  We all know that Socialism is just one tiny step below Liberalism. Should we trade in Braindead for Bernie????  

 

ecember 16, 2022

Bernie Sanders wants more puberty-blockers for children

By John Klar
 

 

Vermont's Bernie Sanders was recently asked about puberty-blockers for children who want to present themselves as members of the opposite sex.  Vermont's progressives lead the nation — and perhaps the world — in propping open the pharmaceutical door for profit-churning experimental drug "therapies" for prepubescent children, despite a lack of FDA approval and clear warnings of multiple health risks.  Bernie is bent on keeping that door wide open.

In a December 9 email to a Vermont constituent, Bernie trundled out the far-out left's standard screed in defense of the indefensible:

Let me begin by saying that the recent surge of anti-transgender bills in state legislatures across the country are discriminatory and shameful. Transgender people face some of the worst discrimination in the United States, especially transgender people of color, and the harassment and outright violence they face every day is disgraceful. This discrimination has profound effects on transgender youth who may not feel safe expressing their identity with friends and family, at home, or at school, and can have long-term mental and physical health repercussions.

Implicit here is the Marxist intrusion between parents and their minor children — since young children "may not feel safe ... with family, at home," the government will intervene to protect them from "long-term mental and physical health repercussions."  The true long-term repercussions are being willfully avoided, in derogation of parents' rights to oversee their children's health and safety.

As scholar Ryan T. Anderson has warned for years, these drugs cause permanent infertility as well as physical and psychological trauma:

 
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Not only does a trans-affirming therapeutic approach run the risk of prolonging transgender identities in children who otherwise would have grown out of them, so too it is entirely experimental. It is not supported by any rigorous science. And there is no way of knowing if it is even safe, let alone effective.

In a recent interview hosted by a college ministry called the Christian Union, Dr. Anderson expounded on the current legal and cultural wrangling over transgenderism that undermines privacy, physical safety, liberty, equality, the concept of family, and bodily integrity.  These concerns are exponentially compounded where children are concerned.

 

Dr. Anderson explains (at 32:10):

What they're doing here is they're using a drug that's approved for precocious puberty ... to treat a different condition, which would be indefinitely blocking puberty. Never allowing a child to go through natural, normal, biological development. This is entirely experimental. We have no studies whatsoever on what the long term outcomes are. ... We also don't know what this means not just for their self-understanding but what this means for their bodily health. It's not just your sexual organs that develop during puberty. There's a whole cascading, interlocking network of physical and mental changes, the brain being one of the most major organs that develop during puberty. And we just have no idea what the consequences are.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/12/bernie_sanders_wants_more_pubertyblockers_for_children.html

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This country and all countries in Western Europe, as well as Australia, New Zealand and a few others have a mixed economy, which means they have some aspects of Socialism which co-exists with Capitalism. Sanders is a Democratic Socialist in the Scandinavian sense, and those countries have a very strong social care network and robust capitalism. I myself am fine with the mixture we have in this country. 

A laisse faire capitalist economy would be nearly as oppressive as a communist one.

In that paragraph Sanders says nothing about puberty blockers though I do think that all medical decisions for minors should be made by parents and doctors, and when it comes to transitioning, the kid, not the parent or doctor, should take the lead in deciding how far to go, as long as puberty blockers-which does affect bone density but not reproductive potential-doesn't damage the bones too much. If it does then regardless of how much the kid wants to continue taking the puberty blockers, the kid would have to stop taking them. If the kid wants to transition but the parents oppose it, well the parents may wind up with a child who will hate them and want nothing to do with them after they do transition as an adult. But that wouldn't be the first time that happened, wouldn't be the last. As Oscar Wilde once said, All parents are in time judged by their children. If the parents are lucky they will be forgiven. 

 

https://www.ohsu.edu/sites/default/files/2020-12/Gender-Clinic-Puberty-Blockers-Handout.pdf

If you want to argue that this site has an agenda, so does The American Thinker. 

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10 hours ago, fedup said:

You may oppose these procedures but your fellow Liberals  and you support such things. A vote for a Liberal is a vote for the knife. 

There is a big difference between losing a Dick and begging to have it removed. 

 

A eunuch (/ˈjuːnək/ (

 


) YOO-nək)[1] is a male who has been castrated.[2] Throughout history, castration often served a specific social function.[3]

 

 

The earliest records for intentional castration to produce eunuchs are from the Sumerian city of Lagash in the 2nd millennium BCE.[4][5] Over the millennia since, they have performed a wide variety of functions in many different cultures: courtiers or equivalent domestics, for espionage or clandestine operations, castrato singers, concubines, or sexual partners, religious specialists, soldiers, royal guards, government officials, and guardians of women or harem servants.

Eunuchs would usually be servants or slaves who had been castrated to make them less threatening servants of a royal court where physical access to the ruler could wield great influence.[6] Seemingly lowly domestic functions—such as making the ruler's bed, bathing him, cutting his hair, carrying him in his litter, or even relaying messages—could, in theory, give a eunuch "the ruler's ear" and impart de facto power on the formally humble but trusted servant. Similar instances are reflected in the humble origins and etymology of many high offices.

Eunuchs supposedly did not generally have loyalties to the military, the aristocracy, or a family of their own (having neither offspring nor in-laws, at the very least). They were thus seen as more trustworthy and less interested in establishing a private "dynasty". Because their condition usually lowered their social status, they could also be easily replaced or killed without repercussion. In cultures that had both harems and eunuchs, eunuchs were sometimes used as harem servants.

 

And then there are men who had their dick removed by someone else trying to control them. 

 

Does that sound familiar?????

Did you know that Jesus advocated for his followers to become eunuchs? 

Matthew 19:12 KJV For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

What Jesus meant is up the individual person reading this. I myself think that Jesus and his apostles and his early followers had this done as a means of sexual purification. But we will never know for certain. The church father Origen is probably the most famous Christian to have this done to him, though there were also the Skoptsys of Russia back in the 18th-19th century. 

You are over looking the fact that with a transwoman the penile tissue is refashioned into a vulva and a vagina. Many transgendered people do not even get these operations. They are satisfied to simply pass as the sex they identify with. The only people who need to know are their urologist, proctologist and sex partner. 

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Jesus meant for His disciples to be dedicated to His work to the point of not having a relationship with ANY woman.  The work was more important.  It was for the sake of Jesus mission.  It was not a recommendation to change their sex or appearance nor was it a commandment.  

In the New Testament, it is recommended for priests and religious leaders to be single in order to concentrate on their job.  But if they were attracted to a marriage, then they should marry. However. it would hinder the depth to which they could apply themselves.  

 

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Well Critter, after those 2 posts we all know where you stand. You are just fine with rich, supposedly educated doctors, mutilating and mentally harming little kids so they can get richer as half of the voted for government says go ahead and slaughter humans. There is no doubt that you and the rest of your liberals are willing to dream up any excuse you can find in order to try and convince the other half that you are right. 

You are wrong Critter and this nation will suffer because of it. When you start allowing half of your voted for government to control the lives of children we all have to ask, what's next?  Where is your intrusive government gonna land next? 

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An Oregon mother of five claims her religious beliefs on gender barred her from adopting a pair of siblings in her state, and now she's taking to the courts to fight for her First Amendment rights.

Jessica Bates told "Fox & Friends First" on Wednesday that she was several months into the adoption process and successfully completed a portion of the training when the hurdle began.

"[I] reported to my certifier because they really emphasized the sexual orientation and gender identity training, that you have to support it," she said. "I emailed her and told her I couldn't do that because of my faith, and then we had a phone call and, because I wouldn't take a child for cross-sex hormone injections, I was basically told that I'm ineligible to adopt in the state of Oregon."

 

You are wrong Critter and this nation will suffer because of it. When you start allowing half of your voted for government to control the lives of children we all have to ask, what's next?  Where is your intrusive government gonna land next?

 

It landed here.

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An Oregon mother of five claims her religious beliefs on gender barred her from adopting a pair of siblings in her state, and now she's taking to the courts to fight for her First Amendment rights.

Jessica Bates told "Fox & Friends First" on Wednesday that she was several months into the adoption process and successfully completed a portion of the training when the hurdle began.

"[I] reported to my certifier because they really emphasized the sexual orientation and gender identity training, that you have to support it," she said. "I emailed her and told her I couldn't do that because of my faith, and then we had a phone call and, because I wouldn't take a child for cross-sex hormone injections, I was basically told that I'm ineligible to adopt in the state of Oregon."

 

You are wrong Critter and this nation will suffer because of it. When you start allowing half of your voted for government to control the lives of children we all have to ask, what's next?  Where is your intrusive government gonna land next?

 

It landed here.

I'm positive that those who are giving up children will have like beliefs to hers, and that could actually give her a better chance of adopting a child.

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18 hours ago, Petee said:

I'm positive that those who are giving up children will have like beliefs to hers, and that could actually give her a better chance of adopting a child.

It does not matter what she thinks and how good of a mother she is.  She will not let the liberals brainwash her into harming children. 

I was told, not to long ago, that if we got rid of liberalism, this country would become just like China and Russia. Look at what is happening and liberalism is still here. 

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On 4/4/2023 at 6:40 PM, weirdcritter said:

This country and all countries in Western Europe, as well as Australia, New Zealand and a few others have a mixed economy, which means they have some aspects of Socialism which co-exists with Capitalism. Sanders is a Democratic Socialist in the Scandinavian sense, and those countries have a very strong social care network and robust capitalism. I myself am fine with the mixture we have in this country. 

A laisse faire capitalist economy would be nearly as oppressive as a communist one.

In that paragraph Sanders says nothing about puberty blockers though I do think that all medical decisions for minors should be made by parents and doctors, and when it comes to transitioning, the kid, not the parent or doctor, should take the lead in deciding how far to go, as long as puberty blockers-which does affect bone density but not reproductive potential-doesn't damage the bones too much. If it does then regardless of how much the kid wants to continue taking the puberty blockers, the kid would have to stop taking them. If the kid wants to transition but the parents oppose it, well the parents may wind up with a child who will hate them and want nothing to do with them after they do transition as an adult. But that wouldn't be the first time that happened, wouldn't be the last. As Oscar Wilde once said, All parents are in time judged by their children. If the parents are lucky they will be forgiven. 

 

https://www.ohsu.edu/sites/default/files/2020-12/Gender-Clinic-Puberty-Blockers-Handout.pdf

If you want to argue that this site has an agenda, so does The American Thinker. 

""""puberty blockers-which does affect bone density but not reproductive potential"""""

If you are talking about GnRH agonists (i.e. leuprolide), which are the most commonly utilized for this application, then there is published evidence of long term impairment of ovarian and testicular function even years after cessation of drug. Information can be found on Pubmed, Medline, UptoDate, or google.

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Earlier this week, attorneys for Lavigne filed a federal lawsuit against her daughter’s public school, alleging that Great Salt Bay Community School Board violated her constitutional rights to decide the upbringing of her child.

In December, the New Castle resident discovered her 13-year-old had been wearing so-called “chest-binders” used by females transitioning to males to hide their breasts.

The mother of three later learned her daughter obtained the undergarments from her school’s social worker, Sam Roy, without her consent and that she was using an entirely different name, unbeknown to her.

Despite going to the school district for help, Lavigne said the social worker was never punished, nor did the school find any fault in his conduct. The one thing they admitted blame for was not informing Lavigne her daughter had started conversations with Roy months before.

 

Now don't forget, we are being told that if we get rid of Liberalism this country will turn into another China or Russia. How is that Liberalism working out for you so far??? You are not allowed to raise your kid but some adult man can give your daughter a tool to hide her boobs with out consulting you. 

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Here is a woman who agrees with fedup.  "say it ain't so, Joe"

 

“Which brings me to the greatest civil rights violation of our time, which is taking place right now, and that is transgenderism,” Owens said. “And I’m going to make a very strong statement right now, and I mean it. It is worse than Jim Crow laws because we are mutilating the bodies of children.”

“How could you not see that as something worse? If you segregated white people versus black people? You wouldn’t be harming children. And we are doing that. And once again, the same usual suspects are supporting at the mainstream media,” Owens said.

Owens says mainstream media are describing trans rights as “compassionate.”

“Look around you, the New York Times, the Washington Post, they’re fostering this delusion. They’re saying it’s compassionate to allow your child to pick their gender,” Owens said.

“The science is in guys, it’s totally fine to allow children to take drugs that chemically castrate them, that render them infertile for the rest of their lives. It’s good for their mental psyche,” she added.

Owens said “doctors and surgeons are performing these procedures to mutilate the bodies of our most vulnerable,” comparing the process to Frankenstein.

“These are human experiments that are being performed on children,” Owens concluded.

Watch above via The Candace Owens podcast.

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On 4/5/2023 at 7:38 AM, fedup said:

Well Critter, after those 2 posts we all know where you stand. You are just fine with rich, supposedly educated doctors, mutilating and mentally harming little kids so they can get richer as half of the voted for government says go ahead and slaughter humans. There is no doubt that you and the rest of your liberals are willing to dream up any excuse you can find in order to try and convince the other half that you are right. 

You are wrong Critter and this nation will suffer because of it. When you start allowing half of your voted for government to control the lives of children we all have to ask, what's next?  Where is your intrusive government gonna land next? 

18 years and older are not little kids. At 18 you are responsible for yourself, you can join the armed forces, you would  have been able to drive for several years, you can take out a mortgage, you can get married and  have children, you are an adult. Why wouldn't you then have the right to decide for yourself what sex you will be? 

And it isn't the government controlling children. It's doctors and parents making these decisions with inputs from the child. In what you post after this, I agree that parents and guardians should have been involved in these decisions for their minor children. The emphasis on minor.  Needless to say, the government should have no input into these decisions.

I'm also not interested in trying to convince anyone I am right. Most young people seem to see transwomen as women and transmen as men.  

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On 4/8/2023 at 9:28 AM, fedup said:

Earlier this week, attorneys for Lavigne filed a federal lawsuit against her daughter’s public school, alleging that Great Salt Bay Community School Board violated her constitutional rights to decide the upbringing of her child.

In December, the New Castle resident discovered her 13-year-old had been wearing so-called “chest-binders” used by females transitioning to males to hide their breasts.

The mother of three later learned her daughter obtained the undergarments from her school’s social worker, Sam Roy, without her consent and that she was using an entirely different name, unbeknown to her.

Despite going to the school district for help, Lavigne said the social worker was never punished, nor did the school find any fault in his conduct. The one thing they admitted blame for was not informing Lavigne her daughter had started conversations with Roy months before.

 

Now don't forget, we are being told that if we get rid of Liberalism this country will turn into another China or Russia. How is that Liberalism working out for you so far??? You are not allowed to raise your kid but some adult man can give your daughter a tool to hide her boobs with out consulting you. 

And the vast majority of liberals would agree that the parents should have been notified. 

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On 4/6/2023 at 7:15 AM, fedup said:

It does not matter what she thinks and how good of a mother she is.  She will not let the liberals brainwash her into harming children. 

I was told, not to long ago, that if we got rid of liberalism, this country would become just like China and Russia. Look at what is happening and liberalism is still here. 

After a certain age, I must point out, kids are going to be more influenced by their peers and the media, including social media, than they will be by parents and other adults. 

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Here is a woman who agrees with fedup.  "say it ain't so, Joe"

 

“Which brings me to the greatest civil rights violation of our time, which is taking place right now, and that is transgenderism,” Owens said. “And I’m going to make a very strong statement right now, and I mean it. It is worse than Jim Crow laws because we are mutilating the bodies of children.”

“How could you not see that as something worse? If you segregated white people versus black people? You wouldn’t be harming children. And we are doing that. And once again, the same usual suspects are supporting at the mainstream media,” Owens said.

Owens says mainstream media are describing trans rights as “compassionate.”

“Look around you, the New York Times, the Washington Post, they’re fostering this delusion. They’re saying it’s compassionate to allow your child to pick their gender,” Owens said.

“The science is in guys, it’s totally fine to allow children to take drugs that chemically castrate them, that render them infertile for the rest of their lives. It’s good for their mental psyche,” she added.

Owens said “doctors and surgeons are performing these procedures to mutilate the bodies of our most vulnerable,” comparing the process to Frankenstein.

“These are human experiments that are being performed on children,” Owens concluded.

Watch above via The Candace Owens podcast.

You have made my day! Candace Owen doesn't agree with me? Yes! Happy happy happy joy joy joy

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On 4/6/2023 at 9:14 AM, Deer Runner said:

""""puberty blockers-which does affect bone density but not reproductive potential"""""

If you are talking about GnRH agonists (i.e. leuprolide), which are the most commonly utilized for this application, then there is published evidence of long term impairment of ovarian and testicular function even years after cessation of drug. Information can be found on Pubmed, Medline, UptoDate, or google.

OK. Thanks for some information that someone could look into. I would hope there are other puberty blockers that don't have that effect. 

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1 hour ago, weirdcritter said:

18 years and older are not little kids. At 18 you are responsible for yourself, you can join the armed forces, you would  have been able to drive for several years, you can take out a mortgage, you can get married and  have children, you are an adult. Why wouldn't you then have the right to decide for yourself what sex you will be? 

And it isn't the government controlling children. It's doctors and parents making these decisions with inputs from the child. In what you post after this, I agree that parents and guardians should have been involved in these decisions for their minor children. The emphasis on minor.  Needless to say, the government should have no input into these decisions.

I'm also not interested in trying to convince anyone I am right. Most young people seem to see transwomen as women and transmen as men.  

it's not just 18 or older

It is the government controlling children by allowing this to happen

It does not matter what most young people think. What matters is the men trying to be women and the women trying to be men that are taking over this country. Every time you turn around there is one or more of them crying the blues over being mistreated by someone or something. They act like they are the only people in the world. 

And I don't need to convince anyone that I am right when I say that the Liberals are allowing this BS just for votes.

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1 hour ago, weirdcritter said:

You have made my day! Candace Owen doesn't agree with me? Yes! Happy happy happy joy joy joy

Ya I would be happy if someone didn't agree with me because I support the mutilation of kids. 

 

because we are mutilating the bodies of children.”

“How could you not see that as something worse? 

Just what part of those facts can't you see?????

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