Acid rain potential from train crash

[jaman]

Potential for massive acid rain along the Eastern Great lakes. From Ohio to Vermont. Where's Pete Buttigieg? Where's Bernie? Resident dont qualify for Fema.

[fedup]

12 hours ago, jaman said:

Potential for massive acid rain along the Eastern Great lakes. From Ohio to Vermont. Where's Pete Buttigieg? Where's Bernie? Resident dont qualify for Fema.

This is what Butt, one of the braindeads, is up to.

 

Joe Rogan slammed Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg Wednesday for saying that there are too many White construction workers taking jobs in communities of color. 

 

When asked by a resident at a town hall Wednesday night where Buttigieg has been during the crisis, East Palestine Mayor Trent Conaway responded, "I don't know. Your guess is as good as me."

[DS58]

Cmon Kids   Pete is no idiot, would you go into a toxic waste site if you didn't have to.

[redmill]

Sulfuric acid is coming next when this crap morphs.

[redmill]

2 hours ago, DS58 said:

Cmon Kids   Pete is no idiot, would you go into a toxic waste site if you didn't have to.

He may not have went , but still the idiot.

[Basset3]

The Mayor of East Palestine said he doesn't want Pete there, he would cause more chaos and add to the already circus atmosphere. 

I tend to agree

[fedup]

Vinyl chloride is an organochloride with the formula H₂C=CHCl. It is also called vinyl chloride monomer (VCM) or chloroethene. This colorless compound is an important industrial chemical chiefly used to produce the polymer polyvinyl chloride (PVC).

 

Vinyl chloride is used to produce PVC, a hard plastic used for pipes, as well as in some packaging, coatings and wires.

 

 

Is vinyl chloride harmful to human health?

 

 

Vinyl chloride can irritate the eyes, mucous membranes, and respiratory tract. Escaping compressed gas or liquid can cause frostbite or irritation of the skin and eyes. Chronic exposure can cause permanent liver injury and liver cancer, neurologic or behavioral symptoms, and changes to the skin and bones of the hand.

[Petee]

2 hours ago, fedup said:

Vinyl chloride is an organochloride with the formula H₂C=CHCl. It is also called vinyl chloride monomer (VCM) or chloroethene. This colorless compound is an important industrial chemical chiefly used to produce the polymer polyvinyl chloride (PVC).

 

Vinyl chloride is used to produce PVC, a hard plastic used for pipes, as well as in some packaging, coatings and wires.

 

 

Is vinyl chloride harmful to human health?

 

 

Vinyl chloride can irritate the eyes, mucous membranes, and respiratory tract. Escaping compressed gas or liquid can cause frostbite or irritation of the skin and eyes. Chronic exposure can cause permanent liver injury and liver cancer, neurologic or behavioral symptoms, and changes to the skin and bones of the hand.

Back to the question, what was the cause of the train wreck to begin with?  Have they determined anything?

[fedup]

1 hour ago, Petee said:

Back to the question, what was the cause of the train wreck to begin with?  Have they determined anything?

I doubt if they know yet but you can bet it was caused by wore out old stuff once they can't figure out a a way to blame the engineer. 

[WMJ77]

it was on fire 20 miles before it derailed...could have messed up one of the wheels....maybe

[fedup]

1 hour ago, Petee said:

Back to the question, what was the cause of the train wreck to begin with?  Have they determined anything?

Start with George Soros, Warren Buffet, and T Boone Picket even though he is now dead. These are 3 of the clowns who bought into the old wore out railroads to ship oil with.  Who do you think stopped the pipelines so the trains could make money?

[Petee]

Since the government does subsidize trains except for passenger, maybe they need to do more oversight?  WHAT AM I THINKING?  TWENTY MILES BEFORE THE CRASH?

The personnel running the train had no idea or readings for clues?  This smacks of negligence somewhere.

[fedup]

A few insanely rich Liberals seen the oil boom coming and the need to transport that oil. They bought up old wore out rail systems then used their power and money to buy off Liberal voted for politicians to allow them to run their junk rail systems. 

They used their power and money to buy off stupid greedy liberal politicians in order to shut down pipelines which then allowed them to make millions by transporting the needed oil with their junk.  If you want to place blame, go right to the top of the chain of greed. It ends with Brain dead and his braindead Liberals. 

Every day they jam this bullsh1t down your throat in the name of green. 

WAKE THE HELL UP PEOPLE.  

[fedup]

Part of Buffett’s investment in the railroad company might not be related to freight at all. He could be eyeing the $8 billion in stimulus money the federal government has set aside to boost the economy, said Steve Ditmeyer, an adjunct professor with Michigan State University’s Railway Management Program.

 

 

Some of that money could go toward upgrading freight lines so that higher-speed trains can run on them, which would in turn make the freight trains go faster, Ditmeyer said. And with 32,000 miles of track, Burlington Northern is likely to benefit.

[fedup]

“Buoyed by an onshore oil boom, Burlington Northern Sante Fe has become a cash machine for Mr. Buffett,” the news outlet reported. “The railroad had sent more than $15 billion in dividends to Berkshire through Sept. 30, according to quarterly regulatory filings. More stunning: The business is on pace to return all the cash Mr. Buffett spent taking it private by the end of this year.”

None of these facts made it into Reuters’ “fact check.”

 

 

Nor did the article discuss the adverse impact of shipping oil by rail. Those exploding oil trains are more common than people realize (see them in pictures), and the human and environmental costs are real and exceed the costs of moving oil by pipeline.

“The horrible truth ... is train transport is far more dangerous,” energy writer Brian Westenhaus has pointed out.

As just one example, forty-two people were confirmed dead in the 2013 Quebec train disaster, and several more are presumed dead.

“No pipeline failure has ever come close to this level of human death and suffering,” Westenhaus points out.

Rail executives themselves have said they expect to see crude-by-rail shipments increase because of Biden’s executive order.

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The US State Department confirms that rail is a more dangerous way to transport oil compared to pipelines.

The environmental impact of rail is also worse. Research shows the spill rate for hazardous material transported by rail is 33 times higher than pipelines. Scholars at Carnegie Mellon University and the University of Pittsburgh also found that locomotive transport causes twice as much pollution as pipelines.

https://fee.org/articles/will-warren-buffett-really-make-billions-off-the-keystone-pipeline-s-demise-it-s-complicated/

 

You all should read this whole article. It's worth your time to learn what is really happening. 

[WMJ77]

On 2/18/2023 at 12:27 PM, Petee said:

Since the government does subsidize trains except for passenger, maybe they need to do more oversight?  WHAT AM I THINKING?  TWENTY MILES BEFORE THE CRASH?

The personnel running the train had no idea or readings for clues?  This smacks of negligence somewhere.

to be fair, there are suppose to be sensers every 20 miles to help conductors know if something is wrong.....they "think" it was just passed 1 and derailed just before the next....who knows if this is true or not, but they have a security camera almost 20 miles away showing it was catching on fire 

[Petee]

2 hours ago, WMJ77 said:

to be fair, there are suppose to be sensers every 20 miles to help conductors know if something is wrong.....they "think" it was just passed 1 and derailed just before the next....who knows if this is true or not, but they have a security camera almost 20 miles away showing it was catching on fire 

It's interesting to know more about the safety systems of railroads.

[WMJ77]